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Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by IgorPartola »

user5994461 wrote: post #287
IgorPartola wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t usually do this but I decided to check your post history. I don’t know if anyone else posted your blog posts to HN but assuming it’s just you, I counted five posts (excluding the flagged ones) that would have made it to the front page of HN for any meaningful amount of time. Based on this, I would say that you are unlikely to be HN’a top blogger. And I don’t know how you’d set up your blog with AWS but I don’…

Wrong assumption, a fair bunch of the posts came from other people :p I honestly wonder what's the average distribution for HN contributors. I imagine it's not much for personal blogs. Not trying to compare myself to the new york times or cloudflare blog obviously.

Heh. Checked by the domain instead and got 10 submissions with double digit or more vote counts. I still think pg and jacquesm have you beat by quite a bit but yes you have 2x the front page posts I initially spotted.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by mitch-snipline »

sergeykish wrote: post #81
mitch-snipline wrote: post #20

I got quite excited at being able to stick my static sites on DO for free, but notice on this page[1] that only the first three are free, then it's $3/m/site. Perhaps I've been spoiled by services like Netlify. I'd be interested to know what the benefits are of using DO's service over free alternatives. [1] https://cloud.digitalocean.com/apps?i=6bf7f8

Netlify Analytics $9/month per site [1], no way to download logs [2]. That said it is easy to deploy, free HTTPS [3] and they support MIME definitions in _headers [4]. I host on Google Cloud Storage, it is not that easy but not that hard either [5], GoAccess for web analytics, no HTTPS. I would be interesting to have a matrix of supported features on different platforms. And how deployment compares to Nginx, letsencr…

The logs would be useful, but there are alternate options that could be used over Netlify's $9/m option. For personal/side projects that price is a no go for me.

I've used GCS before and I agree it's not easy/hard, but certainly not as simple as Netlify.

> I would be interesting to have a matrix of supported features on different platforms. And how deployment compares to Nginx, letsencrypt, git.

That would be useful, especially now that there are more and more options out there. I've seen benchmark comparisons but features would be more useful in my opinion, unless the speed is really poor.

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Post by mitch-snipline »

SahAssar wrote: post #164
mitch-snipline wrote: post #20

I got quite excited at being able to stick my static sites on DO for free, but notice on this page[1] that only the first three are free, then it's $3/m/site. Perhaps I've been spoiled by services like Netlify. I'd be interested to know what the benefits are of using DO's service over free alternatives. [1] https://cloud.digitalocean.com/apps?i=6bf7f8

Why not just use github pages for static sites?

I might do in the future. To be honest, Github Pages has not been on my radar until I saw the recent article posted here with benchmarks across popular static site hosts.

I'll have to look at the benefits of that over Netlify, too.

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Post by bastawhiz »

ypeter wrote: post #175
praet wrote: post #171

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Yes, they added Secret Manager early this year: https://cloud.google.com/secret-manager

And before this you could implement Cloud KMS in your app to decrypt the encrypted secrets you can store in your repo.

This still seems ridiculous. Why did I need to keep secrets in my repo to begin with? GAE, as far as I can tell, has been the only major PaaS that hasn't offered a solution for this. It's so easy to get wrong...it contradicts one of the biggest rules of version control: keep your secrets out of your repo.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by GordonS »

_kyran wrote: post #2

Tried this out in early access and wanted to love and use it however a few things that made it not workable: * wildcard subdomains aren't supported. * Only CNAMEs to digital ocean's CDN are supported (can't have an A record). * There was no way to run a console command. * Bandwidth is 12x higher than usual droplets and unlike standard droplets there isn't an included bandwidth pool.

> Bandwidth is 12x higher than usual droplets and unlike standard droplets there isn't an included bandwidth pool

I'm particularly disappointed to hear this. Digital Ocean likes to say they have simple and predicable pricing, they even say so in TFA - charging high prices for bandwidth is surely the most despised practice of the big 3 cloud providers. I don't expect this from DP. I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed...

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by GordonS »

mitch-snipline wrote: post #20

I got quite excited at being able to stick my static sites on DO for free, but notice on this page[1] that only the first three are free, then it's $3/m/site. Perhaps I've been spoiled by services like Netlify. I'd be interested to know what the benefits are of using DO's service over free alternatives. [1] https://cloud.digitalocean.com/apps?i=6bf7f8

Someone already mentioned GitHub Pages. I'm pretty sure Azure supports serving static sites straight from Blob Storage too - put Cloudflare in front, and you should be able to host dozens of static sites for a few pennies a month.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by GordonS »

Matheus28 wrote: post #197

$0.10/GiB bandwidth. Ouch. That's 10x what they charge for droplets exceeding their included bandwidth. Seems to follow the trend of grossly overcharging for bandwidth that most other PaaS providers do.

That's insane - it's more than even Azure charge! They say in this very article how simple their pricing is, but that's just dishonest of they are charging for bandwidth (and through the nose at that).

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

hyeomans wrote: post #231
WrtCdEvrydy wrote: post #103

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If you're going to do this yourself, Caprover is the best. Cram it into that $5/month, bump the swap to 2GB and then deploy your DB into it... backups are supported if you just straight up map a persistent volume out to your B2 ( https://github.com/caprover/caprover/issues/410 ) Edit: Be aware during automated upgrades you will trip CPU alarms.

This is great, do you have any recommendations/comments on usage? Aside from the CPU one

I've used Caprover coming from Flynn and it's much better.

It's not super pretty like Heroku but it works.

Recommend adding NetData integration so you can monitor your hardware without logging into instances.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by leoplct »

ksajadi wrote: post #100
user5994461 wrote: post #75

I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

There is also Cloud 66 which works with not only digital ocean but many other cloud providers, like a Heroku on top of any cloud.

Cloud66 it's really a great service! I have been using for almost a year to deploy a rails stack and it works good.
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