If Bing ever drops DuckDuckGo, will there be a search engine they can fall back on?
https://www.qwant.com/
Isn't bad
DuckDuckGo Founding Member in Global Privacy Control Standards Effort
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would Bing cancel, they're presumably making money off of the arrangement. And DDG-users would likely not migrate to Bing, but to Google: if you have to use a product by an anti-privacy-corporation, might as well use the good one.
Well, the fact that DDG gets more users than Bing would be embarrassing for Bing.
Eh, was it embarrassing when Chrome was built on Webkit and they had more usage than Safari? I don't think so.
Re: DuckDuckGo Founding Member in Global Privacy Control Standards Effort
#43So nobody will mention Mr. Weinberg business history. His last company used to accumulate private personal user info and then sell all to brokers and advertisers. DDG and privacy is a literal oxymoron just like Brave and privacy are. Google and Microsoft Edge are more private even though neither has any privacy.
I'll bite. How are DDG and Brave not helping to protect your privacy?
Brave is known to be hostile. Please do not put them in the same bucket. DDG still have the benefit of doubt
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's my main concern. Duckduckgo is used more than Bing in many countries and Microsoft might just cancel their access some day. There is always Yandex I guess
Why would Bing cancel, they're presumably making money off of the arrangement. And DDG-users would likely not migrate to Bing, but to Google: if you have to use a product by an anti-privacy-corporation, might as well use the good one.
Someone might strongly suggest the idea to them.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
they use bing only for some stuff, not as their backend. they will do just fine without bing.
I mean, searching something on DDG and then on Bing gives almost identical results.
Just did a search for tempest on bing, duck duck go, and google, and ddg was closer to google than bing. Which is fairly common, they are each the odd one out on some searches. Though I think google’s personalized search results make it seem very different to some people.
Pick something really odd like “Purple car teacup” and google seems to give really bad results. 3 links to amazon, 2 to Pinterest, and 2 to EBay. They all link to thepurpleteacup.com, but only google has a Yoycart link, it also wants to replace car with cat. I think Bing started off with the best image search and ddg the worst, though bing wanted to ignore teacup for the bottom half of it’s results.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, searching something on DDG and then on Bing gives almost identical results.
Just did a search for tempest on bing, duck duck go, and google, and ddg was closer to google than bing. Which is fairly common, they are each the odd one out on some searches. Though I think google’s personalized search results make it seem very different to some people. Pick something really odd like “Purple car teacup” and google seems to give really bad results. 3 links to amazon, 2 to Pinterest, and 2 to EBay. T…
Try a more complex query. e.g.
"difference between wet and dry suit" bing and ddg web site results are almost identical, only ranking differences. Youtube results on the page are identical. Google is quite different.
"average temperature of a dog" Again bing ddg very similar, Google completely different.
"average lifespan of a domestic cat" "list of medication that has interactions with grapefruit".
Just try more complex theories. The importance of ddg / bing relation is something they specifically and actively try to hide behind smoke and mirrors.
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#47Is this a "commoditize your complements" thing?
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#48It is ironic that every new preference meant to enhance privacy only adds more bits of information by which to fingerprint you. But maybe fingerprinting is unavoidable. As far as I understand, to avoid fingerprinting, you would need to not have any browser cache at all.
If DNT is a setting and respected by the website, how is this fingerprinting? My understanding is fingerprinting you need multiple metrics to compare to ensure someone is unique and thus you couldn't fingerprint purely based on a single setting (DNT) alone. (Obviously if it is not respected it becomes one more metric to add to enable better fingerprinting)
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#49I don't mean to discourage governments and groups trying to do what they can in regulating business. But surely privacy is a software feature not a corporate policy.
Relying on others to not use the information at there disposal seems destined to fail.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's my main concern. Duckduckgo is used more than Bing in many countries and Microsoft might just cancel their access some day. There is always Yandex I guess
Why would Bing cancel, they're presumably making money off of the arrangement. And DDG-users would likely not migrate to Bing, but to Google: if you have to use a product by an anti-privacy-corporation, might as well use the good one.
Your google point is pretty valid, they’d be removing a source of income and sending users to a competitor. I think DDG is fine for the time being.