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Re: Amazon Web Services are down

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> I thought you could snapshot drives across regions and bring those EBS drives up under new instances in new regions? In theory, yes. In practice, those snapshots hurt the volume so much that it is impossible to take one in production.

Interesting, your insight has given me a lot to think about. Do you guys blog this anywhere?

Yeah, usually they are on our blog right after the downtime, or in /r/announcements on reddit.

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Reddit being down is not news.

That hurts. But you're right, we've had a lot of issues. I think the reason this is news is because it is a massive Amazon failure.

Reddit gets a lot of grief for stability issues but the fact is it is an immensely popular site that a huge number of people have a close affiliation to. A massive percentage of these people spend a significant portion of their day browsing Reddit, interacting with other redditors, etc. and for the site to be down for as long as it has is news, regardless of similar issues occuring in the past.

The main reason this is news is because this is an Amazon issue but also because tens of thousands of people who frequent the site regularly are now aimlessly browsing the internet in the hopes of finding alternative lulz and in my case some of us are even getting work done. shudder

Re: Amazon Web Services are down

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Some quotes regarding how Netflix handled this without interruptions: "Netflix showed some increased latency, internal alarms went off but hasn't had a service outage." [1] "Netflix is deployed in three zones, sized to lose one and keep going. Cheaper than cost of being down." [2] [1] https://twitter.com/adrianco/status/61075904847282177 [2] https://twitter.com/adrianco/status/61076362680745984

"Cheaper than cost of being down." This is very insightful. Many of us look at the cost of multi zone deployments and cringe, but its a mathematics exercise. (.05 * hours in a year)*(cost of being down per hour) = (expected cost of single zone availability). Now just compare to 2-3x your single zone deployment cost. Don't forget the cost of being down per hour should include lost customers as well.

Also, when there are service interruptions, they send out credits to customers.

Re: Amazon Web Services are down

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4/21/2011 is "Judgement Day" when Skynet becomes self aware and tries to kill us all. http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/2011/04/21 I am just a little freaked out right now.

I wonder if it's a virus or worm whose activation date was today due to the fact above, found its way into the amazon servers.

Probably just a coincidence.

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Reddit being down is not news.

That hurts. But you're right, we've had a lot of issues. I think the reason this is news is because it is a massive Amazon failure.

I can't imagine how frustrating the jobs of the Reddit admins must be.

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Good lord. What's with all the DVs??

Ha. HN really on it's high horse today.

I know right? I made a hilarious joke a little while ago and jedberg yelled at me and everyone downvoted me. And I'll be very surprised if this comment doesn't get downvoted to hell too.

EDIT: I also simply greeted jedberg, and a bunch of people thought that was a good reason to downvote. Do people think there's an imminent influx of redditors, and that they have to dissuade them from becoming HNers? I don't think that's the case.

EDIT: Fuckin' called it.

Re: Amazon Web Services are down

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post #222

Some quotes regarding how Netflix handled this without interruptions: "Netflix showed some increased latency, internal alarms went off but hasn't had a service outage." [1] "Netflix is deployed in three zones, sized to lose one and keep going. Cheaper than cost of being down." [2] [1] https://twitter.com/adrianco/status/61075904847282177 [2] https://twitter.com/adrianco/status/61076362680745984

More comments coming from Adrian Cockcroft:

1. See slides 32-35 of http://www.slideshare.net/adrianco/netflix-in-the-cloud-2011

2. "Deploy in three AZ with no extra instances - target autoscale 30-60% util. You have 50% headroom for load spikes. Lose an AZ -> 90% util."

https://twitter.com/#!/adrianco/status/61089202229624832

Re: Amazon Web Services are down

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post #222

Some quotes regarding how Netflix handled this without interruptions: "Netflix showed some increased latency, internal alarms went off but hasn't had a service outage." [1] "Netflix is deployed in three zones, sized to lose one and keep going. Cheaper than cost of being down." [2] [1] https://twitter.com/adrianco/status/61075904847282177 [2] https://twitter.com/adrianco/status/61076362680745984

"Cheaper than cost of being down." This is very insightful. Many of us look at the cost of multi zone deployments and cringe, but its a mathematics exercise. (.05 * hours in a year)*(cost of being down per hour) = (expected cost of single zone availability). Now just compare to 2-3x your single zone deployment cost. Don't forget the cost of being down per hour should include lost customers as well.

It's a strange algebra though; doesn't it mean the WORSE Amazon's uptime is, the more money you should give them?
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