"We have a lot of redheaded patients, we're looking for someone who has at least 7 years experience working with redheaded patients on a regular basis"
Might apply to dermatologists. Maybe. Well, probably not.
If doctors were interviewed like software developers
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#12I don't think doctors are a useful analogy for software developers. You mention doctors, then people are going to say "we need licensing for software developers" (which for the majority of programming jobs is silly IMO), and the conversation goes off the rails. Doctors are an unusual profession, leave it at that.
someone didn't watch the video
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#13Original source: https://twitter.com/EmilyKager/status/1313303791186268160
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#14hahaha this post is pure gold and should be the top post on HN.
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#15On a similar note, there was a satirical interview about hiring a carpenter with an experience working on brown rounded rectangles or something like that - can anyone find it?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, architects, structural engineers, etc. All these occupations have licensing requirements. Why is software different?
Chances of people dying from my web app is super slim. Chances of people dying because I bladly wired their house is and it caught fire is a lot higher. Chances of me dying while developing my web app is super slim. Chances of someone frying themselves with wiring something up when they don't know how is a lot higher.
I will leave this right here for your education - https://www.bugsnag.com/blog/bug-day-ariane-5-disaster
Re: If doctors were interviewed like software developers
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, architects, structural engineers, etc. All these occupations have licensing requirements. Why is software different?
Chances of people dying from my web app is super slim. Chances of people dying because I bladly wired their house is and it caught fire is a lot higher. Chances of me dying while developing my web app is super slim. Chances of someone frying themselves with wiring something up when they don't know how is a lot higher.
Unless, for example, you're writing software for civil engineers ...
Re: If doctors were interviewed like software developers
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, architects, structural engineers, etc. All these occupations have licensing requirements. Why is software different?
Chances of people dying from my web app is super slim. Chances of people dying because I bladly wired their house is and it caught fire is a lot higher. Chances of me dying while developing my web app is super slim. Chances of someone frying themselves with wiring something up when they don't know how is a lot higher.
chances of being miserable in an administrative job^W^Wordinary life because some software product you have to use is making your job worse rather than better are close to 100%.
If you only count deaths, yeah, bad programming has negligible impact maybe. If you extend it to general suffering, it's quite a drag on everyone actually. And incidentally, good programming can make a world of a difference, too.
So wanting to select for good programming, with even just having a good minimal standard, is a reasonable goal.
The problem is that we're not even sure what makes good programmers and how to spot them, as evidenced by the continuous stream of "I think..." and "Well actually" stories & comments here on HN.
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#19I don't think doctors are a useful analogy for software developers. You mention doctors, then people are going to say "we need licensing for software developers" (which for the majority of programming jobs is silly IMO), and the conversation goes off the rails. Doctors are an unusual profession, leave it at that.
plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, architects, structural engineers, etc. All these occupations have licensing requirements. Why is software different?
exactly - it is time for the computer science and software engineering professions to have trade orgs and unions so those who are qualified can practice the profession and get paid and respected like other professions that require years of college education.
Re: If doctors were interviewed like software developers
#20I don't think doctors are a useful analogy for software developers. You mention doctors, then people are going to say "we need licensing for software developers" (which for the majority of programming jobs is silly IMO), and the conversation goes off the rails. Doctors are an unusual profession, leave it at that.
plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, architects, structural engineers, etc. All these occupations have licensing requirements. Why is software different?
> plumbers, electricians, civil engineers, architects, structural engineers, etc. All these occupations have licensing requirements.
These are almost exclusively local regulations, not US national requirements, and certainly not international.
So even if there were licensing, whose jurisdiction applies? What if you have distributed software development teams?