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A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by 082349872349872 »

ryanlol wrote: post #124
aaron695 wrote: post #51

I wish we targeted rich people with a lot more of things like these. Convince them clean air is more important for their health than the next Mediterranean carnivore diet and we might start getting the tech we need. They quickly get followed by the middle class pretending to be rich, then it becomes mass produced and available to the poor. I think the privacy aspects of automation would also be what the rich value. A…

> Convince them clean air is more important for their health than the next Mediterranean carnivore diet and we might start getting the tech we need. Rich people already have fancy air filters in their cars and homes, they spend several months a year breathing clean air in places like Courchevel and St Barts. In places like London they have special taxes to keep poor people and their nasty polluting cars away from the…

> special taxes to keep poor people and their nasty polluting cars away

Could be worse, we have places like Zermatt that have been mostly combustion-free for a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLNa51VuAE

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by baq »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #86
baq wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re supposed to throw leftovers out before putting dishes in the dishwasher but rinsing before is overkill and greatly reduces both time and environmental gains of using one.

Are there any environmental gains of using a dishwasher?

when I first got a dishwasher, it paid for itself in 8 months in water bills. you might argue my dish washing technique may have been suboptimal and you'd be right, but i believe many people do dishes in running water.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by askvictor »

supernova87a wrote: post #2

Oh, I thought the urban legend was that she was fed up with the servants breaking her prized porcelain so she wanted a machine that would wash automatically and safely. (actually the article says that as well)

Or she could have paid for more careful servants (or more of them so they could spend more time being careful)

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by askvictor »

maneesh wrote: post #48

I’ve never understood why there is no ‘in-sink’ dishwasher. Many American sinks have two basins, and the second basin often contains a dish rack for drying dishes. Why not just have a top cover that you lay over the second basin, that you could close? There’s already a drain, so the water has somewhere to go. Ideally you could use the already existing faucet to provide the water source to negate the need for a pump —…

There are half-height dishwashers, and also ones that fit on top of the bench, but they are both generally bigger than would fit in a sink.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by wlll »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #129
wlll wrote: post #116

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> Mediterranean carnivore diet I'd be surprised if that was a thing. In my experience Mediterranean cooking traditionally revolves around fish, beans and vegetables.

Based purely on vacations and resorts, countries like Greece and Turkey have plenty of meat options.

I don't think that's what people mean by a "Mediterranean diet", vacations and resorts aren't really representative of a traditional diet, which is what I think people are referring to.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by sneak »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #106
StreamBright wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what exactly? I am curious. Is this happening because if everybody was buying industrial dish washers an entire industry was going down or there are legitimate problems?

Quoting that same person's latter reply: "One of the things about commercial equipment is the lack of insulation. So there could be issues with the booster heater affecting the counters around it. The moisture that comes with a high temp machine are also an issue. Maintenance can be a problem if he doesn't have a softener. EDIT: probably the worst thing though, which is mentioned by someone else below, is that if a c…

I’ve been kicking around the idea of a proper commercial kitchen in the house I’m thinking of building in the next few years, and it seems like this is definitely the kind of stuff you need to plan the whole room around.

That said, who doesn’t want a big gas griddle, serious fume hood exhaust, and a giant three door stainless fridge in their kitchen?! I’m so tired of smoke detectors going off when I try to cook a steak indoors, or filling the whole house with burger grease smoke.

A real set of commercial kitchen gear, in a room designed for the purpose, to me is the ultimate luxury kitchen. Beats the hell out of those pot-filler arms and silly islands that pass for such these days in residences.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by environment »

andai wrote: post #55

Does anyone have experience with big industrial dishwashers? We had one at a school I visited, based in an old military barracks. It was about the size of a large fridge, extremely loud (used high pressure) and cleaned dishes spotless in about 15 seconds. I've wanted one of those ever since, along with one of those giant laundromat washing machines with shock absorbers that run a spin cycle in complete silence.

In Norway we have ASKO Professional. They are built for commercial use. In Norway they can be bought at the big consumer electronics shops. I plan to buy their cheapest commercial dishwasher DWCBI231.W during Black Friday in November. They also have the industrial DWCFS5936.S

https://static18.asko.com/files/default/Nordic/Professional/...

I am very pleased with their washing machine WMC743PS. It has shock absorbers. The drain pump makes the most noise. This machine is not afraid of unstable loads such a single wool sweater. It is fascinating to look at the door getting tossed around while the the rest of the machine is stable. In most consumer machines this heavy wool sweater would come out soaking wet as the safety features of the control board would stop the machine. Check out the door seal on ASKO compared to normal washing machines. It is very hygienic unlike the common deep rubber seal that will get moldy over time. I managed to get it for ~1700 USD.

The ASKO Professional vented tumble dryer does not reverse the spin direction, so I got the Miele T 8302 vented tumble dryer instead. I toss the exhaust hose out a window, temporarily. It had to be vented, non-negotiable :)

Miele Professional was too expensive.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by 082349872349872 »

distances wrote: post #100
082349872349872 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could tell I'd been out of back of the house food service long enough when I no longer put my home sink all the way over, because it was too hot. (Our dishwasher and washing machines run when we're not at home, so they could run for twice as long and be twice as loud and I wouldn't care.)

I'm always running them when I'm home. I was taught that getting a broken machine and water damage while you're away can mean negligence and insurance won't cover. Not sure how true that is as I've never really read the fine print in my insurance though.

Here the principle of insurance is to make life better by avoiding worry over low-probability events. (I just called mine and double checked, and they said run the machines anytime I like.)

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by 082349872349872 »

sneak wrote: post #136
TeMPOraL wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting that same person's latter reply: "One of the things about commercial equipment is the lack of insulation. So there could be issues with the booster heater affecting the counters around it. The moisture that comes with a high temp machine are also an issue. Maintenance can be a problem if he doesn't have a softener. EDIT: probably the worst thing though, which is mentioned by someone else below, is that if a c…

I’ve been kicking around the idea of a proper commercial kitchen in the house I’m thinking of building in the next few years, and it seems like this is definitely the kind of stuff you need to plan the whole room around. That said, who doesn’t want a big gas griddle, serious fume hood exhaust, and a giant three door stainless fridge in their kitchen?! I’m so tired of smoke detectors going off when I try to cook a ste…

The ultimate luxury kitchen is the sort one sees in original condition pre-1900 middle class houses: it's very spartan, because the owners never went in there, it having been the domain of the cook.
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