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Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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I'm not sure I understand your point. Tesla was awarded tradeable regulatory credits. They didn't have any use for them, so they sold them. I suppose they could have just sat on them and refused to sell. There are valid criticisms around the environmental cost of building electric vehicles. There are also valid criticisms of the regulatory environment that Tesla operates in. I'm not convinced, though, that it makes s…

Replying to myself to elaborate. The regulatory credit trading scheme is effectively the same as a system under which the government imposes extra taxes on FIAT/Chrysler while giving Tesla a tax break. Should Tesla refuse to take that tax break because the money is coming from FIAT/Chrysler?

I think Tesla should absolutely take the money.

But it means that buying an EV in the EU doesn't really help the environment as an individual action. The emissions are essentially locked in by government policy, although it's very aggressive.

I think this is better though. It doesn't rely on consumers being conscious of their externalities, because regardless of their choices the aggregate carbon efficiency will be improving steadily by the exact same amount year over year.

The program is clearly creating a vibrant BEV market and forcing economies of scale that will eventually make them profitable outside of compliance. It's a major win.

Buying an EV, buying its certificate and not letting anyone use it would mean you're not also allowing 10 ICEs to be sold. But that would really be going above an beyond.

And I don't think Tesla (as the only auto maker that could have this program) wants to draw attention to the dynamics at play.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Go ahead, go through the last two weeks of headlines and show me three headlines about GM, Ford, Toyota, FCA, etc that are as negative as the typical Tesla headline. The mainline auto makers get kid gloves compared to Tesla. But then again, auto press always knows who pays for the buffets and junkets. I've been on jalopnik for what seems like a decade now, through the Univision years and the PE Spanfeller years, and…

That's BS. I read jalopnik regularly for brainless amusement and car news. You're perceived slant against tesla is baseless. They regularly shit on H-D for their idiotic product decisions, chevy and BMW for their idiotic truck/M car grilles, nikola for fraud lately, tons of other cars/manufacturers, and yes, they shit on tesla for poor QA practices, dickish moves on resold cars, and being run by a petulant egomaniaca…

Fanaticism is proportional to the fear of being proved wrong. Consciously or subconsciously.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Every PR is good PR, as long as your name is written correct. Or something along these lines.

Sure that's why we hold murderers, rapist and pedophiles in such high regards.

I am not sure why you are lumping pedophiles with murders and rapists. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. It is nothing more than that. Most people with this disorder don't sexually molest prepubescent children. About half of the people that do engage in sexually activity with children are not attracted to them, they do it because they have access and control of the child.

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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1. It's a skill that needs practice and most professionals are not trained in. 2. PR is an entryway for collecting and managing stakeholder questions that might warrant future board level action (in communication). 3. PR is usually close to the board and has it's own dynamic with marketing being further down the chain. Elon dismantling PR makes sense. Probably they rubbed him the wrong way too often. Why bother.

I can only assume he wants to run the PR show himself by going on Joe Rogan and twitter. His man-of-the-people strategy does seem to have some merit. "Elon Musk" is arguably a stronger brand than Tesla.

That is why I find it absurd when people compare him to Steve Jobs.

Steve always use his brand to sell Apple. Elon always use Tesla to sell his brand.

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Sure that's why we hold murderers, rapist and pedophiles in such high regards.

I am not sure why you are lumping pedophiles with murders and rapists. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. It is nothing more than that. Most people with this disorder don't sexually molest prepubescent children. About half of the people that do engage in sexually activity with children are not attracted to them, they do it because they have access and control of the child.

I think you should share your views at the next team meeting, I am sure you will get many brownie points.

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Reddit has a lot of anti-Elon users, I'm not sure that on net the users of that site support him/Tesla.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/ https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/

"This community is available in the app"

Well, so long reddit (and thanks for all the memes)

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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Go ahead, go through the last two weeks of headlines and show me three headlines about GM, Ford, Toyota, FCA, etc that are as negative as the typical Tesla headline. The mainline auto makers get kid gloves compared to Tesla. But then again, auto press always knows who pays for the buffets and junkets. I've been on jalopnik for what seems like a decade now, through the Univision years and the PE Spanfeller years, and…

That's BS. I read jalopnik regularly for brainless amusement and car news. You're perceived slant against tesla is baseless. They regularly shit on H-D for their idiotic product decisions, chevy and BMW for their idiotic truck/M car grilles, nikola for fraud lately, tons of other cars/manufacturers, and yes, they shit on tesla for poor QA practices, dickish moves on resold cars, and being run by a petulant egomaniaca…

Jalopnik rips on Tesla every single day. Every single day.

On Jalopnik today, Wednesday October 7, 9:30 pm:

3 Tesla - roof flies off! They're ignoring me! Tesla alleges sabotage!

One BMW - NEW $40000 motorcycle! 0 GM 0 Toyota 1 Ford - Mach-E $3000 cheaper!

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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post #133

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I am not sure why you are lumping pedophiles with murders and rapists. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. It is nothing more than that. Most people with this disorder don't sexually molest prepubescent children. About half of the people that do engage in sexually activity with children are not attracted to them, they do it because they have access and control of the child.

I think you should share your views at the next team meeting, I am sure you will get many brownie points.

This is not an opinion, it is a fact. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association lists pedophilia as both a sexual orientation and disorder.

"The essential feature of this disorder is recurrent, intense, sexual urges and sexually arousing fantasies, of at least six months' duration, involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child."

"The age of the person is arbitrarily set at age 16 years or older and at least 5 years older than the child."

https://www.vice.com/en/article/mgmzwn/most-child-sex-abuser...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09249...

https://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi429

Re: Tesla dissolves its PR department

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I think you should share your views at the next team meeting, I am sure you will get many brownie points.

This is not an opinion, it is a fact. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association lists pedophilia as both a sexual orientation and disorder. "The essential feature of this disorder is recurrent, intense, sexual urges and sexually arousing fantasies, of at least six months' duration, involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child." "The age of the person is arbitrarily set at ag…

Sure, and it will also be a carrier suicide to state that at your work place in front of all your coworkers.

My point was any PR =/= good PR.

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