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Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by waheoo »

AnonC wrote: post #257

Seems like someone from DigitalOcean is reading and responding to comments here. I won’t touch or recommend DigitalOcean to anyone unless it employs some humans to address and respond to queries instead of sending the same automated replies. The very first time I created an account, it charged my card for verification and then blocked my account (the charge was also immediately reversed) since its systems believed th…

Hah I had the opposite effect of getting to deal with a rude gatekeeper when I needed to create more than the I itial 5 instances they limit you to.

I moved to lightsail. It has problems but at least AWS support treats you like a human.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by todotask »

westoncb wrote: post #168
user5994461 wrote: post #124

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The big players have separate charges for bandwidth and disk and other hidden stuff. They are way more expensive than Digital Ocean / OVH all inclusive. Worse, the costs is unpredictable which makes them a no go for a side project, I can't risk accidentally getting a $1000 bill. As a real world example, I run a personal blog. If it were running on S3, my personal finance would have been obliterated when it got featur…

> If it were running on S3, my personal finance would have been obliterated when it got featured on HN and served 1+ TB of traffic. Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it looks like 1 TB of outgoing traffic would be ~$90 https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/ I've had things hit the HN front page a few times while just hosting on ec2 and never had a noticeable increase in charges. Then again, I wasn't hosting very large fi…

I have a similar experience and using UpCloud VPS as been able to keep my cost down (less than $5/m or a cup of coffee)

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by karlp »

google234123 wrote: post #253
Larrikin wrote: post #251

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The Google part of the name means that the service could be shut down at moment's notice if it isn't providing millions of dollars in revenue and even then it's a toss up if the people in charge get bored of it.

What Google Cloud product has been shutdown prematurely? You still mad about the Google RSS reader?

First one I found: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Cloud_Print

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Post by aerovistae »

AnonC wrote: post #257

Seems like someone from DigitalOcean is reading and responding to comments here. I won’t touch or recommend DigitalOcean to anyone unless it employs some humans to address and respond to queries instead of sending the same automated replies. The very first time I created an account, it charged my card for verification and then blocked my account (the charge was also immediately reversed) since its systems believed th…

By contrast, as a free user of heroku I've gotten support from _actual engineers rather than support staff._ AS A NON-PAYING USER!! literally never happened to me before. Love them.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by tommica »

waheoo wrote: post #261
AnonC wrote: post #257

Seems like someone from DigitalOcean is reading and responding to comments here. I won’t touch or recommend DigitalOcean to anyone unless it employs some humans to address and respond to queries instead of sending the same automated replies. The very first time I created an account, it charged my card for verification and then blocked my account (the charge was also immediately reversed) since its systems believed th…

Hah I had the opposite effect of getting to deal with a rude gatekeeper when I needed to create more than the I itial 5 instances they limit you to. I moved to lightsail. It has problems but at least AWS support treats you like a human.

I've had a different experience in regards of their communication - they've been nice to answer my questions in a timely fashion, for example about the instance amount, while running just a few servers

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by Chloro »

emilsedgh wrote: post #195
user5994461 wrote: post #75

I am so glad to see this. I was looking to deploy an app and the choice is either Heroku or manage your own server which I don't want to do. Heroku gives instant deployment for the most common types of apps (python/java/ruby). It's PaaS done right, it's fantastic. You should really have a look if you're not aware of it, it's only $7 for a starter app. Problem is, scaling up is about $50 per gigabyte of memory which m…

This is spot on, except for one thing: Google Cloud Run. It's the closest offering I've found to Heroku and am planning to migrate all our services to it due to significantly better pricing. Make sure you look into it.

Recently discovered cloud run and it's absolutely amazing. I will be using it for as much as possible going forward. Cheap, easy, scaling. For a crud app it does everything you could ever want.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by manigandham »

karlp wrote: post #264
google234123 wrote: post #253

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What Google Cloud product has been shutdown prematurely? You still mad about the Google RSS reader?

First one I found: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Cloud_Print

That was never a part of Google Cloud. It was a feature of Chrome browser/OS and allowed for sharing printers over the internet because of the limitations back in 2010.

Google has a terrible reputation with consumer services but has been pretty decent with Google Cloud so far. The biggest negative example would be Google Maps pricing changes but that seems to be different class of issue.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by manigandham »

blaisio wrote: post #235
emilsedgh wrote: post #195

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This is spot on, except for one thing: Google Cloud Run. It's the closest offering I've found to Heroku and am planning to migrate all our services to it due to significantly better pricing. Make sure you look into it.

Google Cloud Run doesn't provide nearly the same features as Heroku. For example, there is no easy way to manage secrets with Cloud Run. There is no way to run a worker process. Integration with other Google Cloud things like Cloud SQL is clunky. Cloud Run is okay to get started but almost all apps will need more.

It's built around everything being an HTTP request, and billing for the continuous seconds of time the app needs to run to service those calls.

You can run worker code by moving them into individual HTTP calls, triggered by whatever workflow you want. Cloud Tasks, PubSub, Cron, etc.

Re: DigitalOcean App Platform

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Post by [deleted] »

user5994461 wrote: post #124
076ae80a-3c97-4 wrote: post #120

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It's probably worth looking into the big cloud providers rather than the little guys. In Azure you can have an app service (a deployed app in any one of loads of languages without looking after the machine it sits on) with 1.75GB RAM for about $12 a month. Obviously your usage may vary and that will effect the price. But I get the feeling that the big players are cheaper than people think they are for small projects.

The big players have separate charges for bandwidth and disk and other hidden stuff. They are way more expensive than Digital Ocean / OVH all inclusive. Worse, the costs is unpredictable which makes them a no go for a side project, I can't risk accidentally getting a $1000 bill. As a real world example, I run a personal blog. If it were running on S3, my personal finance would have been obliterated when it got featur…

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