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Re: How to Type 3x Faster

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Post by 1MachineElf »

cosmotic wrote: post #29

Where is the evidence that Dvorak is faster? I thought that was throughly debunked 25 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20190108175236/http://reason.com...

"Dvorak entered his typists into contests, and they consistently out-typed the QWERTYists by a long shot. It got so bad that within a few years, Dvorak typists were banned outright from competing. This decision was overturned not long after, but the resentment remained. QWERTY typists were so unnerved by the speed of the Dvorak typists that Dvorak typewriters were sabotaged, and he had to hire security guards to protect them."

https://hackaday.com/2020/03/31/perhaps-august-dvorak-is-mor...

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

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Post by 1MachineElf »

I too type Dvorak on an ortholinear 40% keyboard with a Vim optimised layout[0], and it's the bee's nees.

Unfortunately, both Vim and Dvorak pre-date typical copy (Ctrl+C), cut (Ctrl+X), paste (Ctrl+V). It's not the typing, but these inconveniences that make me think of going with some Colemak variant. Even though both of Vim and Dvorak pre-date dedicated arrow keys, HJKL on Dvorak is still saner than any Colemak layout I've seen so far. I dream about some alternative that strikes a good balance between all of these.

[0] https://github.com/1MachineElf/qmk_firmware/tree/sb4dv_planc...

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

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Post by MivLives »

1MachineElf wrote: post #32

I too type Dvorak on an ortholinear 40% keyboard with a Vim optimised layout[0], and it's the bee's nees. Unfortunately, both Vim and Dvorak pre-date typical copy (Ctrl+C), cut (Ctrl+X), paste (Ctrl+V). It's not the typing, but these inconveniences that make me think of going with some Colemak variant. Even though both of Vim and Dvorak pre-date dedicated arrow keys, HJKL on Dvorak is still saner than any Colemak lay…

Couldn't you get QMK to send CTRL+C, or whatever as a dedicated key on a different layer? Easier then rebinding every program.

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

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Post by 1MachineElf »

MivLives wrote: post #33
1MachineElf wrote: post #32

I too type Dvorak on an ortholinear 40% keyboard with a Vim optimised layout[0], and it's the bee's nees. Unfortunately, both Vim and Dvorak pre-date typical copy (Ctrl+C), cut (Ctrl+X), paste (Ctrl+V). It's not the typing, but these inconveniences that make me think of going with some Colemak variant. Even though both of Vim and Dvorak pre-date dedicated arrow keys, HJKL on Dvorak is still saner than any Colemak lay…

Couldn't you get QMK to send CTRL+C, or whatever as a dedicated key on a different layer? Easier then rebinding every program.

Sure, but I just use One Shot Mods for the most part. So I hit Mods1+C,C and that yeilds Ctrl+C.

I can also add Ctrl keys on the bottom row. The point of SB4DV is for it to work on anything with as few as 33 keys. Adapting it to a 48-key Planck leaves room for extra keys such as these, while the core is the same across different keyboards.

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

#35

Post by cipher_system »

stickydink wrote: post #8
punnerud wrote: post #2

TL;DR: Text replacement on iOS/MacOS: Dont = Don’t rr = remember wd = would be etc.

The best life hack I ever did, have iOS and Mac autoreplace "@@" with your email address.

Wow, I've been annoyed for as long as I've had a smart phone that it never could input my e-mail in an easy way. And then it was this easy all along, thanks!

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

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Post by seanhunter »

soraminazuki wrote: post #36
punnerud wrote: post #2

TL;DR: Text replacement on iOS/MacOS: Dont = Don’t rr = remember wd = would be etc.

I'd imagine this would be a nightmare for Vim users as every command the user enters would be turned into something else entirely.

for vim, you just do

   :ab hn Hey there hackernews!
or whatever to define abbreviations. Honestly I mainly use them to correct things I commonly mistype or if the CapitAliZation of MyCompanyName is annoying.

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

#38

Post by golergka »

ryzenecc10 wrote: post #30
golergka wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ultimately does it matter? For coding, no. If your typing speed is your bottleneck, you're doing something wrong — either don't use your abstractions the right way and write too much code, or don't know your editor macro engine well enough. Probably both. But for writing prose? Yes. Being able to type faster gives you more freedom to test more ideas, get more rough material and then edit it out.

Dragon speech recognition (Professional Individual v15) works way faster and far more accurately than I ever thought it would. Keyboard typing actually involves more backspacing over mistakes than Dragon does. Dragon makes 120-200+ wpm effortless whereas 100+ wpm on keyboard requires concentration and is fatiguing. Dragon alas only runs on Windows but it works great inside a VirtualBox VM on Linux and Mac. (The VM se…

That sounds very promising, thanks! I'll definitely check it out.

Does it work as well for non-native speakers though?

Re: How to Type 3x Faster

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Post by m463 »

1MachineElf wrote: post #31
cosmotic wrote: post #29

Where is the evidence that Dvorak is faster? I thought that was throughly debunked 25 years ago. https://web.archive.org/web/20190108175236/http://reason.com...

"Dvorak entered his typists into contests, and they consistently out-typed the QWERTYists by a long shot. It got so bad that within a few years, Dvorak typists were banned outright from competing. This decision was overturned not long after, but the resentment remained. QWERTY typists were so unnerved by the speed of the Dvorak typists that Dvorak typewriters were sabotaged, and he had to hire security guards to prot…

I wonder how colemak compares?
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