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A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by Kaze404 »

unnouinceput wrote: post #30

A socialite I can get behind. Imagine modern socialites doing the same!! Like, for example, Paris Hilton to invent cool new tech stuff instead of being famous for "one night in Paris".

Paris Hilton is famous for:

1) Being a (mildly) successful actress

2) Being a model

3) Being an incredibly successful DJ (she was the highest paid DJ in the world in 2014, with a residence in Ibiza from 2013 to 2017)

4) Owning a perfume line that's brought over 3 billion US Dollars in revenue

I sincerely dislike defending rich people online, but it's weird to see an entrepreneur as successful as Paris being bashed in HN of all places.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by wombatmobile »

redmorphium wrote: post #12
microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

a lot of people tend to think you need to pre-rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. no, you don't: in fact, this can remove the substrate that's needed for the detergent to be most effective. most of my dishes, which I have a lot of: finish eating/drinking, straight in, no sink stage.

How often do you clean the filter in the sump?

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

gowld wrote: post #35
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't think this needs an invention Cabinets with integrated dishwashers would be something... Look like cabinets from outside, but with racks inside and once filled with dirty dishes, seal and wash everything. Not a bad idea.

That already exists. Cabinets are just doors and finishes; the cabinet maker can add them to your dishwasher.

Grabbing things out of a cabinet is easier than grabbing things out of a dishwasher. And I think other things would need to change to make it work above ground level, e.g. sealing with side swinging doors. But there is certainly a market for something like this, albeit in the $100,000 range.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by unnouinceput »

Kaze404 wrote: post #41
unnouinceput wrote: post #30

A socialite I can get behind. Imagine modern socialites doing the same!! Like, for example, Paris Hilton to invent cool new tech stuff instead of being famous for "one night in Paris".

Paris Hilton is famous for: 1) Being a (mildly) successful actress 2) Being a model 3) Being an incredibly successful DJ (she was the highest paid DJ in the world in 2014, with a residence in Ibiza from 2013 to 2017) 4) Owning a perfume line that's brought over 3 billion US Dollars in revenue I sincerely dislike defending rich people online, but it's weird to see an entrepreneur as successful as Paris being bashed in…

Go and ask any guy on any street, see what you get when you'll ask "what's Paris Hilton famous for?".

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by wombatmobile »

aidenn0 wrote: post #33
fitbitq wrote: post #10

Tip for the pro when buying a dishwasher. Make sure the distance between so lower and upper drawer is big enought that the "washing wheels" can still spin if you have your plates inside. My new Whirlpool dishwasher is nearly useless.

Most Bosch washers have adjustable racks. It's great.

How often do you clean the sump filter in your Bosch?

If you don't do it often, do you get Error 24?

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by JimTheMan »

airstrike wrote: post #37
Xcelerate wrote: post #22

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents. Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparent…

Are you pre-rinsing your dishes before loading them in the dishwasher? Have you run a "cleaning" cycle? Here's one guide on google, not sure if it works https://www.today.com/series/how-often-should-you/how-clean-... Do you open your dishwasher as soon as the cycle is done? For best results, according to my layman's opinion, make sure to open it and even pull out the racks / give the top rack a nice shake / check for…

If I had to pre-rinse the dishes before putting them in a dishwasher, I wouldn't bother using a dishwasher.

I'd wash them by hand, it only takes marginally more time.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by airstrike »

JimTheMan wrote: post #46
airstrike wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you pre-rinsing your dishes before loading them in the dishwasher? Have you run a "cleaning" cycle? Here's one guide on google, not sure if it works https://www.today.com/series/how-often-should-you/how-clean-... Do you open your dishwasher as soon as the cycle is done? For best results, according to my layman's opinion, make sure to open it and even pull out the racks / give the top rack a nice shake / check for…

If I had to pre-rinse the dishes before putting them in a dishwasher, I wouldn't bother using a dishwasher. I'd wash them by hand, it only takes marginally more time.

Yeah, you're not supposed to put them full of food into the dishwasher. It's not like the thing runs on anti-matter – it's just hot water and soap.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by maneesh »

I’ve never understood why there is no ‘in-sink’ dishwasher. Many American sinks have two basins, and the second basin often contains a dish rack for drying dishes. Why not just have a top cover that you lay over the second basin, that you could close?

There’s already a drain, so the water has somewhere to go. Ideally you could use the already existing faucet to provide the water source to negate the need for a pump — just attach the faucet to a spout, and it provides the pressure to wash the dish.

Since the racks are cheap, you could fill it up, turn on the dishwasher, and then just move it to the side to dry, and swap in the empty rack to start the process all over again.

Seems so obvious to me, and cheap to build too. Am I missing something?

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by db48x »

maneesh wrote: post #48

I’ve never understood why there is no ‘in-sink’ dishwasher. Many American sinks have two basins, and the second basin often contains a dish rack for drying dishes. Why not just have a top cover that you lay over the second basin, that you could close? There’s already a drain, so the water has somewhere to go. Ideally you could use the already existing faucet to provide the water source to negate the need for a pump —…

You need a pump (and a filter) to recirculate the water, a heater for hotter water, and you need volume so that you can arrange everything so that they aren't touching and can all be washed. With a washing machine the size of half my sink, I'd be able to wash my largest pot and nothing else. With my small dishwasher, I can wash my largest pot plus almost everything else that's likely to need washing. Plus you'll want a seal that can keep in the steam, and some insulation to reduce the amount of energy you use continually reheating the water. Where does the lid go when you're not washing something? Does it lie flat on the counter next to the sink, taking up space you won't be able to use for anything else? What about the hinges? They'll be splashed with water repeatedly when you use the sink, so they won't last forever.

But sure, you could build a dishwasher into a sink; it's not impossible.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by m463 »

tehjoker wrote: post #19
m463 wrote: post #15

I also spend 10x the time automating something instead of just doing that damn work. It's how procrastination works. "If I only added colorized ascii to my command, I probably wouldn't have to really read the output"

Well converting sucky work into cool and fun work that eventually saves everyone time is a win for all involved. :D

Exactly. That is why we have eggbeaters that scramble the egg inside the shell! ;)
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