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Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Post by Dork1234 »

mavelikara wrote: post #507
ycombonator wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new administration will absolutely roll back these changes to kowtow to pro immigration groups and wage sensitive Silicon Valley. Obama administration expanded the coverage of H1B to their spouses (H4 dependents) who previously were ineligible to work. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/temporary...

Obama administration allowed Employment Authorization for dependents of H-1B visa holders who applied and were chosen for permanent residency and were stuck in the backlogs. Many of these people - women, mostly - have been unable to participate meaningfully in the economy of many years. What is the problem with allowing them to work while they wait for their turn to be permanent residents?

The original idea of the H1-B Visa was these were high paying jobs where the spouse wouldn't need to work. It appears the pay rate has not kept with with inflation and/or cost of living.

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Post by api »

setpatchaddress wrote: post #294
api wrote: post #27

Fair trade policy has consistently been the one thing on which I agree with the Trump presidency. It hasn't been enough to outweigh all the other absolutely horrible stuff, but it is one thing. I am concerned that Biden will return us to the old days of "free" trade that allows corporations to import totalitarianism via near-slave or even actual slave (see Uyghur prisoners and forced labor) wage arbitrage to crush do…

But his trade policies are ineffective and scattershot. Literally nothing he's done on trade has improved anyone in the US's wages, net profits, or way of life, nor has any of it set up the conditions for that to happen in the future. It's all bullshit posturing.

I see posturing as an improvement over the wholesale selloff and export of the entire economic and industrial basis of the US middle class to totalitarian regimes.

That being said, I agree that Trump has only been marginally effective here and generally has no coherent plan... for this or much of anything else. Donald doesn't plan. He blusters and postures.

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Post by kazagistar »

systemvoltage wrote: post #486
WillPostForFood wrote: post #460

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bias coming from bad experiences in the computer science field https://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2020-H1B-Visa-Category.as... It isn't bias, just look at the H1B distribution, it heavily biased to the CS/IT space. Like for every possible biologist you are imagining, there probably 100 IT/CS guys coming in. I'd love to have the biologists and chemists come in, but the big IT consultancies are massively abusing the sy…

Why? Are there more jobs for Biologists than Computer Scientists/Developers/Programmers? It looks like this is a response based on demand . Why in the world would you want more biologists when there isn't market demand for them? This is mostly wishful romanticization of particular "underdog" areas of studies. Makes no sense to me. Even more preposterous is the parent's profound claim: > I feel like this thread has a…

Market forces do a poor job driving science. Its too long term, too risky, and you lose to much to the tragedy of the commons. All but the most trivial and mechanical research mostly happens due to government funding, or as a prestige byproduct of higher education (ie, not directly driven by their profit objectives). So in this case, maybe there is demand in a social sense, not a market sense.

Alternatively, large computer science companies may have just greased enough pockets to create regulatory capture of the process, creating the inequality in a non market driven way.

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Post by nrmitchi »

dudul wrote: post #520
nrmitchi wrote: post #309

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> these are not an offer of citizenship No one said that it was, but there is a difference between submitting for an extension X months ago and fully expecting to get it, and then the rules changing out from under you and being told "No. I understand you've been here for 10 years, but pack up all your shit and leave". 5 years ago it was technically "and leave tonight" (which I'm sure you understand is unreasonable).…

I dont think an H1B holder can stay for 10 years, unless the rule changed since I had one, but 10ish years ago it was 6 years max.

AFAIK if you are a valid green card application with a valid priority date you are allowed to.

Considering the backlog for green cards if you're from india/china, there are _tons_ of people in this situation.

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Post by username90 »

x87678r wrote: post #165

> Under the changes, an applicant must have a college degree in the specific field in which he or she is looking to work. A software developer, for example, wouldn’t be awarded an H-1B visa if that person has a degree in electrical engineering. As an EE, that is rough.

That example was likely conceived by the journalist and not the administration, I don't see it in other articles on this. I don't believe it will be that strict since degrees looks so different in different parts of the world.

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Post by throwawaygh »

ianmobbs wrote: post #192
908B64B197 wrote: post #151

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It does indirectly. Hiring for the later will hopefully cease to be cost effective. But the former should still be worth it.

Why do you care whether or not it's cost effective to hire a foreign UI tester? That has zero correlation with whether or not its cost effective to hire someone with experience at CERN. Your hypothetical lists 2 different profiles that would be hired for vastly different jobs, and it seems like you only care that one of them is fucked over - is it just a strawman for racism? Can you point to any actual examples of CE…

There is one H1B lottery, so the two DO compete in the same lottery. And yes, I've absolutely seen excellent colleagues making north of $200K leave the country because they didn't get an H1B visa.

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Post by mardifoufs »

findjashua wrote: post #8
spurgu wrote: post #3

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Or https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome

this doesn't work for wsj, ft etc - archive.is does

It works on the FT and WSJ for me, even on mobile. Do you have ublock origin turned on too? You need it for Bypass Paywalls to work

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Post by R0b0t1 »

ravila4 wrote: post #434

I feel like this thread has a lot of bias coming from bad experiences in the computer science field. While I do understand the bad practices of many tech companies, I think the picture is very different when you look at careers in other STEM fields, such as biology, chemistry, and physics. H1B visas are very important for foreign students in these fields particularly those hoping to pursue careers in academia. H1B vi…

>H1B visas are very important for foreign students in these fields particularly those hoping to pursue careers in academia.

I don't care. It's not the US's job to educate the world. Until someone helps me get into university again I don't give a rat's ass about foreign students coming in. Those students are typically in the higher earning income brackets for their countries.

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