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Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

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Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#72
It's not gonna take a long time before, most of the tech jobs move to Canada/rest of world. Why should someone hire entry/mid level engineer in usa, if they can hire at same price much senior engineer in same time zone? After successful taste of work from home, things have changed a lot. Unfortunately, now USA have not much to offer (rising healthcare cost, continuous degradation/humiliation of non white immigrants, rising intolerance of society, high cost of education etc). Let's see how it works out!

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#73

It's pretty amazing to me how anti-immigrant America is, for a country built on immigration, but I suppose it's always been that way. Benjamin Franklin hated the Germans in the 1750s [1]. For perspective, Canada, a country 1/10th the size of the US, brings in 30,000 refugees each year. The US brings in 18,000. This means Canada brings in 25X the number of refugees per capita than the US does. Canada, a country 1/10th…

Your data for the US is far off every source I can find. Per the UN, ~20% of all immigrants globally reside in the US.

On an annual basis:

The US brings in 100-200k refugees. Total immigration is 1.0-1.1M. The US grants citizenship to 700-800k immigrants.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#74
I agree 100% with you. My view is even more extreme, I think we should allow anyone who passes a criminal background check to be able to get a work visa, with no quotas.

But barring that pipe dream, this seems like a good interim step.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#75
post #9

Credit where credit is due, this is a good move. The H1B program has been abused for a long time. It sounds like these changes should help make it too expensive for the fraudulent abuse to continue.

> The H1B program has been abused for a long time

What's the abuse?

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#76
post #34

While I'm in favor of the move, wages are just a band-aid fix. The core of the problem is that the premise of the H1B visa itself – extraordinary skill that cannot be found in the US – is complete bullshit. Everyone participating in the program (including the government) knows this, and yet they have to do the entire song and dance of years long approval processes, fake job listings, RFEs and whatnot. Fix the real pr…

I take it you've never tried to hire experienced software engineers. The supply is significantly below demand.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#77
post #5

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something this administration is doing...

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Misuse of analogy. This analogy says that inaction eventually is the right thing to do. This is action.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#78
post #26
post #5

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something this administration is doing...

His prison reform was a good thing and not commended enough.

If your talking about the First Step Act that was a bipartisan bill that passed in the Senate unanimously. Semi props for embracing it, but this gets into a bigger issue of whether an administration can take credit for the bills passed underneath them.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#79

It's pretty amazing to me how anti-immigrant America is, for a country built on immigration, but I suppose it's always been that way. Benjamin Franklin hated the Germans in the 1750s [1]. For perspective, Canada, a country 1/10th the size of the US, brings in 30,000 refugees each year. The US brings in 18,000. This means Canada brings in 25X the number of refugees per capita than the US does. Canada, a country 1/10th…

The US receives half a million undocumented immigrants per year; Canada receives almost none. Plus another 1.2 million legal immigrants.

Re: Trump administration announces overhaul of H1B visa program requiring higher pay

#80

This is a great move. The current H1B program made no sense at all. If I wanted to hire: A smart graduate from EPFL, Polytechnique or ETH Zurich who interned at CERN and has contributed to the Linux kernel for a software engineering job at a unicorn startup or A grad from a second tier "technical college" in India with a visa refusal rate of ~90% for a job doing manual UI testing and QA for a body shop my only path f…

The changes described in the article do not change your hypothetical whatsoever.
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