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Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by mountainb »

vdnkh wrote: post #24
swashboon wrote: post #12

I worked with two developers in Boston who were DINK (Double Income No Kids) and they sold their Boston condo, moved to the Midwest (Minneapolis) and bought a six bedroom house on a lake and two jet-skis for the same price as their condo. Their cost of living went down tremendously. By their own standards they lost nothing compared to Boston (food/services/entertainment actually got better) except that they had to de…

This is a very consumerist world view (get big house, get fun toys) that not everyone believes in. I choose to live in a more vibrant city where I essentially trade my money for opportunity, experiences, and community.

Versus the highly spiritual experience of living in the pod, eating the bugs, paying the $4,500 every month to the landlord of the one bedroom, answering e-mails at 11:24 pm to be able to pay for it etc.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by DavidPeiffer »

claudiulodro wrote: post #5

For people that work in any of these cities, how have you been enjoying it? What sort of tech companies are around? What do the job interviews and salaries out there look like?

Not working at a tech company, but I live in the Des Moines area. I bet most people don't realize Des Moines is a finance and insurance hub, with Wells Fargo as the largest employer, Principal Financial headquartered here, and numerous other insurance companies.

The cost of living is quite low, and it's routinely ranked very highly on the "good places to live" lists that pop up periodically.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by samschooler »

jrockway wrote: post #18
swashboon wrote: post #12

I worked with two developers in Boston who were DINK (Double Income No Kids) and they sold their Boston condo, moved to the Midwest (Minneapolis) and bought a six bedroom house on a lake and two jet-skis for the same price as their condo. Their cost of living went down tremendously. By their own standards they lost nothing compared to Boston (food/services/entertainment actually got better) except that they had to de…

Not that winter in Boston is particularly pleasant, but I feel like the jetskis are going to be a lot less fun when it's -40 out.

Trade out jetskis for snowmobiles my friend

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by whimsicalism »

geogra4 wrote: post #27
whimsicalism wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Salaries are $80K fresh out of college. I think this is changing (for the higher) in some low cost of living areas (although I can't speak for the midwest) as tech talent moves out of SF. My good friend just got a $120k offer for a pretty "routine" new grad job. e: for clarity

what location and what company (if you can share?) Most ranges I've seen around this parts are 80-120k and upwards of 140-150 for senior talent.

Y'know - a bit of a brain fart on my part, because I forgot we were discussing the midwest in particular and not low cost of living in general.

This was an offer in North Carolina for a testing role, but I'd rather not share the company without asking her.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by stagger87 »

ericye16 wrote: post #28
swashboon wrote: post #12

I worked with two developers in Boston who were DINK (Double Income No Kids) and they sold their Boston condo, moved to the Midwest (Minneapolis) and bought a six bedroom house on a lake and two jet-skis for the same price as their condo. Their cost of living went down tremendously. By their own standards they lost nothing compared to Boston (food/services/entertainment actually got better) except that they had to de…

What do two developers who are DINK need 6 bedrooms for? Genuinely curious.

Who said they needed 6 bedrooms?

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by swashboon »

ericye16 wrote: post #28
swashboon wrote: post #12

I worked with two developers in Boston who were DINK (Double Income No Kids) and they sold their Boston condo, moved to the Midwest (Minneapolis) and bought a six bedroom house on a lake and two jet-skis for the same price as their condo. Their cost of living went down tremendously. By their own standards they lost nothing compared to Boston (food/services/entertainment actually got better) except that they had to de…

What do two developers who are DINK need 6 bedrooms for? Genuinely curious.

they each had home offices and they were "centrally" located for family gatherings. mostly they just wanted the location.

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by toomuchtodo »

vdnkh wrote: post #24
swashboon wrote: post #12

I worked with two developers in Boston who were DINK (Double Income No Kids) and they sold their Boston condo, moved to the Midwest (Minneapolis) and bought a six bedroom house on a lake and two jet-skis for the same price as their condo. Their cost of living went down tremendously. By their own standards they lost nothing compared to Boston (food/services/entertainment actually got better) except that they had to de…

This is a very consumerist world view (get big house, get fun toys) that not everyone believes in. I choose to live in a more vibrant city where I essentially trade my money for opportunity, experiences, and community.

They could have also sunk all of the equity into index funds, and done the digital nomad thing [1], using investment income to boost quality of life.

I believe the point is, don't waste income on servicing housing debt unnecessarily (efficient use of capital). If jet skis and McMansions are your thing, cool. If you'd rather party it up in Medellín, Columbia while living off of dividends, also cool.

[1] https://nomadlist.com/cost-of-living/in/

Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by [deleted] »

jrockway wrote: post #18
swashboon wrote: post #12

I worked with two developers in Boston who were DINK (Double Income No Kids) and they sold their Boston condo, moved to the Midwest (Minneapolis) and bought a six bedroom house on a lake and two jet-skis for the same price as their condo. Their cost of living went down tremendously. By their own standards they lost nothing compared to Boston (food/services/entertainment actually got better) except that they had to de…

Not that winter in Boston is particularly pleasant, but I feel like the jetskis are going to be a lot less fun when it's -40 out.

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Re: Hiring for tech jobs has increased more than 100% in these Midwestern cities

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Post by rubidium »

pb7 wrote: post #16
rubidium wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For programmers in Indianapolis, there's numerous opportunities. Salesforce has helped advance the salary curve. Job interviews are pretty straightforward. Nothing like the FAANG grind. Salaries are $80K fresh out of college. Surpassing $200k is doable at places like Salesforce, Eli Lilly, etc.. Lots of "routine" programming jobs are in the $100-$140k range going from Senior to Staff. Higher levels of IC and manageme…

Can you link to a nice house as a reference?

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8150-Birchfield-Dr-Indian...
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