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Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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"[Hunter S. Thompson] chose, rather than writing original copy, to re-type books like The Great Gatsby and a lot of Norman Mailer, the Naked and the Dead, a lot of Hemingway. He would sit down there on an old type-writer and type every word of those books and he said, 'I just wanna feel what it feels like to write that we'll.'" HST: "If you type out somebody's work, you learn a lot about it. Amazingly it's like music…

Agreed that you learn much about a work (I've retyped a few articles and books simply to get a usable copy). But copying is not the same as creating --- you'll see the finished product, and may intuit hints as to how it was created, but what you're not getting is the creation process itself: research (especially for nonfiction), structure, plotting and character (for fiction), editing, rewriting, restructuring and reordering content, additions and deletions.

Writing (and reading) short disconnected bits is fairly easy: nothing interrelates strongly, composition is simple and forgiving. Longer works are complex: they have structure, arcs, need to retain interest, jumps and connections need to be plausible, the whole be consistent (unless inconsistency is used for effect), etc., etc.

And you don't get this knowledge simply by copying out great works.

I see a similar failure-to-grasp in some proposals for hypertext or advanced publishing systems. Reading is inherently serial, in that we follow lines of text on a page. Interactivity --- usually defined by the ability to skip between previously-written segments --- just offers more serial paths.

The value of hypertext and related tools may be far more on the writing process, where vastly more sources can be referenced and cited with greater ease. Some might be incorporated into the final work, but an excess of interconnections and quotations is itself distracting.

I see this as a particular blindness of Ted Nelson's Xanadu project, despite many fascinating and original elements to it.

Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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"[Hunter S. Thompson] chose, rather than writing original copy, to re-type books like The Great Gatsby and a lot of Norman Mailer, the Naked and the Dead, a lot of Hemingway. He would sit down there on an old type-writer and type every word of those books and he said, 'I just wanna feel what it feels like to write that we'll.'" HST: "If you type out somebody's work, you learn a lot about it. Amazingly it's like music…

This was explained by HST in one of his letters, which was collected in the excellent three book collection of letters he sent and received to his friends. Including many famous writers. HST was always great in small rapid outputs of writing, which is captured well in his letters (similar to how his collection of articles are his most popular works, but these deserve a similar look). He obviously had some sort of ADD…

I find this to be true with computer programming/work for me. I’m productive in bursts.

Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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This is a cool site, though I did notice something that I haven't seen anywhere before: the URL paths are JSON objects. Is there a reason for this? For example, for "The Call of Cthulhu", the URL is this: https://www.typelit.io/chapters/%7B%22bookTitle%22:%20%22The... Why not just use this? https://www.typelit.io/chapters/5f468ca35e91c10be0883a57/The... Also, the JSON object is fault tolerant and will display whateve…

Hey I'm glad you asked! It's the way Nextjs handles urls with more than 1 param. If I prettify the URL then for some reason the page can't access them. Don't know if they've improved on it yet (or, who knows, maybe I'm just using it wrong) but it'll be fixed eventually.

// call /MyPage?par1=hello&par2=42

const MyPage = (props: { query: { par1: string; par2: number } }) => ( {`${props.query.par1}-${props.query.par2}`} );

Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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I’m interested to know what issues you’ve encountered with the built in keyboard in iOS. I found the virtual web keyboard weird to use and it missed a few keystrokes. I also do most of my typing and my reading on iOS, so, even if an uncommon use case, I would like to practice using this keyboard with maybe even autocorrect and swipe enabled to master typing in this environment.

Hey thanks for asking! Since this a website and not a native app, accessing and controlling built in mobile functionality has proven quite difficult. I'll certainly come back to it at some point, and if I can get native keyboards to work properly, will definitely add support for swipe and autocorrect to go with it.

Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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It's great to see that some people really like this, and the quote from HST is cool - obviously there is some value here. The collection is eclectic (public domain I suppose), and the UI is pretty nice. I found that recognizing whitespace was possibly something that could be improved a bit, but overall it felt really nice.

That said, this is not for me. One page and I was cooked. I had thought that this might be a decent way to enjoy a novel that I've not read, but one page in I can say:

Not only did I not comprehend what I was typing, I didn't enjoy it at all.

Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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I think maybe it would be better if the application showed any erroneously typed characters, rather than the correct characters in red. Or, if it's possible, to show some sort of visual juxtaposition between the two.

Also, I think maybe the font size should be a little bit larger, at least for the text around the position where the cursor is, if not for the whole text. Otherwise, nice application!

Re: Show HN: I made a site where you practice typing by retyping entire novels

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Amazing idea, really I'm impressed. This intrigued me at first glance as a fun typing exercise, as I've always struggled with typing - I started using computers way before they started teaching typing around here, so my typing is far from the optimal 10 finger method, but I've always found typing exercises mind numbingly boring. However, as I started typing The call of Cthulhu, I'm now much more intrigued by this as…

Have you tried reading books out loud? I found that made a surprising difference to experience of books, even just because I was devouring them much slower. Found it much easier to enjoy the 'craft' of the book too.
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