If you haven't heard the rumors surrounding AirPods Studio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENXYxqL-dB8
Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
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Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#32Is "quietly" really the appropriate word here? Do stores typically put out announcements when they stop stocking certain products? If not, "quietly" just seems to be a way to create an air of vague menace and treachery without saying it.
I thought it was a pun in re. audio equipment, especially the noise cancelling headphones.
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU WITH THESE NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES ON. HANG ON...
Okay, that's better. Yes, the GP r/woosh'ed themselves.
Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#33It makes sense if they don't want to cannibalize their own profits for expanding a category of their own products.
I don't really have a horse in this race because I don't care what accessories Apple sells or doesn't, don't buy retail, and rarely buy electronics or durable goods new. I still have a 3 year old pair of QC35 (I) that has had ~10 ear pads, the top band, and battery replaced by me.
Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#34I guess it shows that they are confident their own over-ear noise canceling headphones will mimic some of AirPods' success. HomePod is still trash though, so not sure what their plan for that is.
Homepod are not trash! They sound amazing! I love them..
Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#35Bose had to have seen this coming. The patent on noise cancelling expired and now its a free for all. Plus, its apples store. Every item would have been listed at apples sole discretion.
>patent on noise cancelling expired Looks like Bose has multiple patents for noise cancelling technology. Did a major one expire?
The most important patents, like this one :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4455675A/en
Have expired for a long while. It just took some time for serious competition, like the Sony MDR-1000X and its descendants, to come out.
Those patents are really old actually. Noise cancelling was unknown to the general public prior to the first quietcomfort headphones from Bose but it had been in use for decades before in Bose aviation headsets.
Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
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Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#38It makes sense if they don't want to cannibalize their own profits for expanding a category of their own products. I don't really have a horse in this race because I don't care what accessories Apple sells or doesn't, don't buy retail, and rarely buy electronics or durable goods new. I still have a 3 year old pair of QC35 (I) that has had ~10 ear pads, the top band, and battery replaced by me.
No it doesn't.
Apple is going further and further into it's own navel.
I think, and this may be a strange thought, that apple might do better to sell competitors stuff to keep itself strong and healthy.
Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
> air of vague menace and treachery (a) Considering their track record of wanting to monopolize and control markets, I wouldn't put it past them. (b) Many stores do put out announcements if they remove products for ideological reasons.
(Of course you got downvoted...) How can Apple be, 1. An operating system and business software company 2. A cell phone company 3. An exclusive marketplace for apps 4. A movie studio and streaming service 5. A music studio and streaming service 6. A hardware company whose products predominantly work with and favor other Apple branded hardware 7. ... How can Google, Amazon, and Apple all do this? Pretty soon they're g…
I mean the answer to all of these and more is having lots of cash needing investment vehicles that do better than just passively investing it in the market. None of these companies are menacingly laughing in board rooms, they’re just seeing other companies prove markets for them and betting that they can compete.
If you want to get that first party integration/advantage these companies are happy to partner with you, but you have to have a product that can’t be replicated with 5 devs, a PM, and a Domino’s gift card. And don’t expect to charge a premium, if you try to ask for any more than a sliver above cost the numbers work out in favor of building it in-house.
Re: Apple quietly stops selling Bose, Sonos and some Logitech gear
#40Bose had to have seen this coming. The patent on noise cancelling expired and now its a free for all. Plus, its apples store. Every item would have been listed at apples sole discretion.
My Bose headphones are miles more comfortable and more effective at active noice cancellation than the best Apple Beats. Will that change? Maybe. I mean...I hope so. It's hard having only Bose and Sony credibly competing in the wireless over-the-ear ANC space. It would be really nice to be able to get away from the crap bluetooth scourge like AirPods kinda sorta started doing with their W and H series chips.
But Apple Beats are poor quality to begin with, it's just got Dre's name associated to it to make them expensive.
Most major brands are better than beats by a long shot.
However, most brands are beginning to cheap out IMO. I had a pair of sennheiser headphones back in like ~2005, they lasted like 11 years before the cups started to fall apart. I replaced them with a new pair of sennheiser which lasted ~12 months before they began to fall apart... Not only that, the old sennheiser was SUPER comfy, the new ones hurt my ears after a while... Replaced the new sennheiser with another model, fall apart in ~12 months...
Now I'm just using some Asus gaming headphones, quality is not Bose level but its good enough, and the cups have lasted longer than the last 2 pair of sennheiser I've had.