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How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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No, obviously, but I was barely able to with Modafinil. Perhaps better phrased: I wouldn't have been able to pull those hours without Modafinil. That, I have tried, and failed.

What? You _needed_ a drug to pull 13 hour work days with 5-6 hours of sleep? Did you try a cup or two of coffee?

Ah.... caffeine counts as a drug too.

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Am I the only one against performance enhancing drugs?

I'm with you. Nothing needs to be done that urgently that you need to do drugs. I put little stock in the "no side effects" voices. The body wasn't made to do this sort of thing, forcing it to just can't be good.

"Made to"? Made by who? If you believe in evolution via natural selection, you believe that the human body is, at minimum, just barely good enough to propagate its genes -- with no other lower limit specified. I think we can definitely improve on that.

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It's not a broad claim. It's common knowledge. Ask any doctor. Or scientist. Perhaps you can email the question to this guy http://www.drfuhrman.com/ and maybe even learn something else in the process. I'm not wasting any more time debating non-hacker issues here at hacker news. There are several other excellent threads directly related to hacker news. Let's talk about those over there. This is my last comment in thi…

It becomes a broad claim due to the words "Any stimulant, I don't care which". Many common stimulants (e.g., amphetamines) have such an effect. To extend the claim to "any stimulant, I don't care which" is a broad claim. There is no fundamental reason why every stimulant should have a down side (no "conservation of energy" law for human wakefulness). At this point, I'd say the jury is still out on the side effects of…

"Startup founders hacking their own bodies?"

Heh, interesting way to put it - kudos.

So with that in mind - I will buy a beer for the first person who successfully manages to integrate their bodily functions with Twitter :)

If you fart (for example, disgusting thought, but just putting the idea out there for kicks) how intriguing would it be for hundreds or thousands of people around the world to know about it instantly?

You could be in an office in New York, let one rip and people in Madrid, Melbourne, Mumbai (or some other city starting with M) would know about it.

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"What’s so funny is that entrepreneurs apparently aren’t interested in typical drugs - instead they find the one that gives them a mental and stamina advantage" He must not pay much attention at his own TechCrunch events, as they are fueled by booze and weed with some coke thrown in for the bizdev types' girlfriends.

How much of a competitive advantage would a startup have if it strictly avoided booze, weed, and coke?

I'll let you know when I start-up :)

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I'm with you. Nothing needs to be done that urgently that you need to do drugs. I put little stock in the "no side effects" voices. The body wasn't made to do this sort of thing, forcing it to just can't be good.

"Made to"? Made by who? If you believe in evolution via natural selection, you believe that the human body is, at minimum, just barely good enough to propagate its genes -- with no other lower limit specified. I think we can definitely improve on that.

I just believe in equilibrium. Obviously, we don't naturally go extended periods without sleep over and over again. Forcing the body to do so through the use of drugs just seems like a bad, bad idea. This isn't a caffeine perk we're talking about here, its a little more serious than that. If other people want to do it, fine, but I'll stick to believing there is no gain without consequence when it comes to the human body. Where the drugs give you gains in one place, things will break in another.

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I've tried Provigil, and found it wasn't really all it was cracked up to be. The only thing it really does is make you less tired. I guess that's great if you want to be awake for 40 hours at a time, but for mental clarity and sharper thought: Drink water. Drink a LOT of water. I bet that half of these guys taking Provigil because they need the 'edge' have never forced themselves to drink a gallon of regular old wate…

Interesting.

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I've tried Provigil, and found it wasn't really all it was cracked up to be. The only thing it really does is make you less tired. I guess that's great if you want to be awake for 40 hours at a time, but for mental clarity and sharper thought: Drink water. Drink a LOT of water. I bet that half of these guys taking Provigil because they need the 'edge' have never forced themselves to drink a gallon of regular old wate…

This is why I take a Nalgene bottle everywhere with me. 32oz of pure, unadulterated h2o (depending on the quality of the local water source).

Unadulterated? Have you never heard of BPA?

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Am I the only one against performance enhancing drugs?

This is a broad statement.

Being categorically against performance enhancing drugs is unwise because it would slow the development of new drugs that can improve people's lives. Also, it would deny helpful drugs to those individuals who wouldn't experience negative side effects(since everyone reacts differently to the same drugs).

I am against using performance enhancing drugs under-the-table, in an uncontrolled manner, because not only is that risky, but it doesn't contribute at all to our understanding of the pros and cons of a drug. But if you are up for experimenting and record your results, I think people should be able to try nearly anything they want to.

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