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Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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Given the title, I thought this was about reintroducing Aurochs through some amazing feat of modern science... It is not, it's about wolves and wisents (european bison). Still worthwhile, but not as cool as the title pretends it'll be.

During my apprenticeship my final exam project was to write OxPro. A breeding database for the local aurochs breeding association.

edit: I had to check if it's still around. https://www.aueroxen.de/oxpro-2/

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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If this interests you, I strongly recommend watching Seven Worlds, One Planet episode 5 [0], which features grey wolves hunting in a village in Italy at night [1], filmed with thermal cameras. It is pretty incredible. [0] - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000bqjg [1] - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07v21x9

Only works in the UK.

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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European (especially British) "rewilding" "politics" is still in pretty early stages of maturity. Some of the language in this article is kind of demonstrative of this. "* This method of conservation aims to let large areas of land return to wilderness – in other words, a state of zero human intervention.*" This is quite clearly hopelessly idealistic. Robust ecosystems that sustain macrofauna are achievable (and nece…

Most people live in cities, which makes them think of wolves as a cute, awesome, protect-at-all-cost animal with no downsides. The farmers are in the minority, which means the problem has to become pretty bad to get the majority of the public on their side.

Most people I know think of wolves as the bigger, meaner brothers of coyotes, which are definitely a concern for anyone with a pet in much of the west and east coast (the latter of which now have dog-wolf-coyote hybrids...).

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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Wolves will eat your children if they feel bold enough, it's not just about livestock. There's a reason they feature so prominently in folklore.

I heard one number in the discussion in Germany (where in some areas the wolves discussion runs wild) which I found interesting: The number of people killed by wolves in Germany in recent years is zero, the number of people killed by dogs is around 3-4 per year.

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"The emissions from travel it took to report this story were 18kg CO2, travelling by train and car. The digital emissions from this story are an estimated 1.2g to 3.6g CO2 per page view." Kinda nice they include that, makes you think.

That's one weird / funny thing I like about https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/power.html

The website runs on a ~1W board powered by solar panels (and a battery), the fiber router actually serving it consumes 10x the energy of the server itself.

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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The article mentions the need for "habitat corridors" so wild animals can move "freely" to find new mating/hunting grounds. Apparently, Poland has relatively well developed network of corridors across the entire country: http://mapa.korytarze.pl/index_en.html What about Germany?

The former wall left behind such a corridor. There is an interesting 99% Invisible episode about it.

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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should be easy to calculate if you measure the full site size vs plaintext content.

Size isn't everything. How should 100kb of PNG compare with 100kb of JS? How about 100 bytes of JS that loop endlessly? What about 10kb of text that ultimately convince you to buy solar panels, or a boat, or anything else?

> What about 10kb of text that ultimately convince you to buy solar panels, or a boat, or anything else?

Gobbled up by the Pihole, generating more CO2.

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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If interested in the Earth before humans exploded onto the scene, I recommend The Once and Future Earth by JB MacKinnon. http://www.jbmackinnon.com/books.html I had no idea what we'd lost -- about 90%. North America had more large animals than Africa. Sailing ships in the middle of the Atlantic would grind to a halt from the density of fish. Whales as far as the eye could see all day. Beautifully written.

> The Once and Future Earth by JB MacKinnon.

The title is actually "The Once and Future World". I find it fascinating that the two similar titles create very different expectations in my mind. Maybe it's just my own cognitive associations, but 'world' makes me think of wider implications (eg social, political, environmental) while 'earth' seems more scientific (eg natural processes). Someone might say "look at the world around you" but not "look at the earth around you." In French, 'tout le monde' translates literally to "all the world" but is used to mean 'everybody' -- and specifically, humans.

Re: Bison and wolf populations are reviving in parts of Europe

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post #32

Given the title, I thought this was about reintroducing Aurochs through some amazing feat of modern science... It is not, it's about wolves and wisents (european bison). Still worthwhile, but not as cool as the title pretends it'll be.

During my apprenticeship my final exam project was to write OxPro. A breeding database for the local aurochs breeding association. edit: I had to check if it's still around. https://www.aueroxen.de/oxpro-2/

Those are just odd cows.
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