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Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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ruqqus.com It's in beta though.

That user base basically looks like Voat. As in, not pleasant.

True. However, the community is still young and they may course correct before maturing.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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They are private platforms, nobody owns anybody a soapbox. Freedom of speech is about legality . Restrictions of freedom of speech: litigation, prison, penalties or worse. Not "my favourite subreddit was deleted" And speech is not 100% free anywhere.

> Freedom of speech is about legality It can often be about legality but it is absolutely not limited to that.

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Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Digg, MySpace and Friendster weren't "over in a heartbeat". It took decay and lack of care with the platform, plus strong competition with strong venture capital funding. Plus, they were never as dominant or as entrenched as Reddit is. Reddit is not going away just because you dislike it.

I was never on MySpace and Friendster but Digg was over in a heartbeat with the introduction of their redesign. And I don’t care about Reddit one way or the other, it kind of stinks but it’ll ultimately be replaced by something else that also stinks.

As I remember it, what happened on Digg was that there was a kind of friendly rivalry between Reddit and Digg. So everybody on Digg was already aware of Reddit. Then when the redesign hit, a meme spread that "This redesign sucks, try reddit". And so people did. And what they found was a much better community (Digg was more like a news website with a comment section).

The cautionary tail for Reddit is that what keeps people locked into a social network is community. And if they replace community with cat pictures, the whole thing will fall apart.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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That looks like a joke sub.

This looks like a joke comment. If you're not going to add anything please comment elsewhere. It's not a joke sub there are people who legitimately believe this. And the point it's illustrating is that even if it's a "joke" some "jokes" are more well tolerated by Reddit than others. My original point is that there is definitely ideological biases at play in what is/is not bannable on reddit.

No, when I say it’s a joke sub I really mean it’s a joke sub. Just like https://old.reddit.com/r/EmpireDidNothingWrong/. There might be people who actually believe that Stalin was a saint, but they’re not the ones posting memes about it.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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You are going full circle without realising it. A political party may be banned in Germany, as in: You cannot vote for them any more. For that to happen, they have to be hostile against fundamental parts of the constitution. That is division of powers, free development of the individual, independence of courts and stuff like that. Only then a ban might be even considered. And it is still fully legal to be against the…

You're right the point about the AfD is a weak one, so I won't argue it further (though I don't cede my ground, either). But you did not respond to the rest of my comment. Free speech in Germany (and, for that matter, most of Europe), does not exist. There is a great article in The Atlantic about this, titled "In Europe, Speech Is an Alienable Right": https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/its-not-fr... .…

But those examples do not hold either?

The Muhammad story is about Austria (which I did not discuss and do not know a lot about). I don't know much about the religious issue at hand either, but the possibility of getting fined 500€ for accusing people of paedophilia if your claim does not hold does not strike me as such horrendous. Isn't this slander in the US and illegal as well?

How is Germany on par with the countries you listed? You may not disturb public peace with speech and not insult people. Example is a dude who printed "The Holy Quran" on toilet paper. Nothing wrong with enforcing human decency via the law. Such insults is also literally what Nazis did in the first stage of the holocaust. Looking at the countries this is supposed to be on par with: Yemen uses blasphemy laws to imprison establishment enemies. Oman is not even on the list. Turkey is extra ironic because there was a comedian who made a parody of the Turkish government and Germany had a diplomatic crisis because Germany refused to do something against it (obv. totally on par). Myanmar put a guy in jail for wearing Buddha headphones. Indonesia's mention is so brief I guess you could say the law sounds similar.

Still not seeing the slope, sorry...

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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I was never on MySpace and Friendster but Digg was over in a heartbeat with the introduction of their redesign. And I don’t care about Reddit one way or the other, it kind of stinks but it’ll ultimately be replaced by something else that also stinks.

As I remember it, what happened on Digg was that there was a kind of friendly rivalry between Reddit and Digg. So everybody on Digg was already aware of Reddit. Then when the redesign hit, a meme spread that "This redesign sucks, try reddit". And so people did. And what they found was a much better community (Digg was more like a news website with a comment section). The cautionary tail for Reddit is that what keeps…

Yep. Also, what Digg did wasn't just a redesign, but also a complete rewrite from scratch in the exact way Joel Spolsky told everyone not to do one decade before [1]. It was buggy and missing important community features, and it was incompatible with the old website because they had changed the whole database too, so there was no way of choosing between old and new running side by side like you can with Reddit.

[1] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-...

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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I'm sitting here crying at my computer screen. Everything the early pioneers of the internet fought for, freedom of speech, lack of censorship, open discussion of radical ideas, is being destroyed. The destruction of Aaron's legacy is just the latest in a long list of final straws that is eroding my trust and hope for the future. Dark day today indeed.

Then follow his steps and fight for the future.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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post #14

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Free speech stands against the financial interests of social media. Reddit is the real estate for ads, and the best value for top global advertisers are safe spaces that are free of controversy. In the end, it's the advertisers that decide what is allowed to be published there.

Unless you’re willing to pay for it you can’t have social media that isn’t a real estate for ads or at least some sort of commercial interest. Arguably even HN despite being technically a pro-bono side project serves the commercial interest of YC (and possibly others) if it didn’t and especially if it would have a negative impact on them it wouldn’t be around. And HN is a very niche social media (if you can even call…

Unless you’re willing to pay for it you can’t have an encyclopedia that isn’t a real estate for ads or at least some sort of commercial interest.

Unless you’re willing to pay for it you can’t have an operating sytem that isn’t a real estate for ads or at least some sort of commercial interest.

Or maybe you can.

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