Honda quits F1, invests in carbon-free tech instead

Post by psychstudio » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 12:13 AM UTC

Swizec wrote: post #28

x87678r wrote: post #16

F1 isn't what it used to be last century. Races were nail biting epic contests, cars visibly improved every season, drivers were international celebrities dicing with real life ending risk, and passionate fans filled the stadiums. Modern races are just a procession of the same few people each weekend in global rich social events.

Drivers still are international celebrities and they still dice with death. Someone died in an F2 car just last year. But you’re right that it has gotten far safer. Drivers walk away from horrific crashes at insane speeds. And modern cars despite being less powerful post lap times that boggle the mind. The aero is bonkers. Drivers regularly pull 5G laterally in corners. If it weren’t for rules, I bet we’d see corneri…

Post by TylerE » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 12:14 AM UTC

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Swizec wrote: post #28

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Drivers still are international celebrities and they still dice with death. Someone died in an F2 car just last year. But you’re right that it has gotten far safer. Drivers walk away from horrific crashes at insane speeds. And modern cars despite being less powerful post lap times that boggle the mind. The aero is bonkers. Drivers regularly pull 5G laterally in corners. If it weren’t for rules, I bet we’d see corneri…

Agreed speeds are insane, but its less interesting than when people were overtaking more. The rich people bit was a dig at Abu Dhabi & Azerbaijan which seem mostly empty.

Post by bitL » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 12:16 AM UTC

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The article is worth a read. Honda has quit a few times before.

The irony is that the last time they left F1 they sold off their F1 team for next to nothing to management which then won the F1 World driver and constructors championship the next season. That team was then sold to Mercedes to become their works team which now utterly dominates F1 for the last few seasons. If only they persevered.

Post by ZephyrBlu » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 12:22 AM UTC

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F-1 was really interesting years ago. With no traction control or advanced aerodynamics and less regulations on engine power, it was a real arena for drivers. It was so fierce that Senna decided to hit his rival in the first corner of a race, taking out both, solidifying Senna's championship. It was exciting too. Since drivers need to take risks with 750+ HP beasts, Senna battling Schumacher, Villneuve battling Coult…

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Post by csours » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 12:29 AM UTC

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So, Formula E?

Formula E also has a monopoly on FIA sanctioned all-electric single seater racing for 25 seasons, so F1 cannot go full EV until 2039 at minimum unless contracts get renegotiated. Will be interesting to see what happens to F1 as a result, Indycar as well. Petrolheads can whine about electric racing all they want, but engine suppliers are losing interest in making gas engines when the consumer market is in a shift away…