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Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by DavidVoid »

ethanwillis wrote: post #162
DavidVoid wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you run a forum and a user is constantly making up lies, harassing other users, and spamming misinformation then I don't think banning them is "free speech" issue. t_D should have been banned long before it eventually was imo. It actively spread misinformation and hate and made the website worse for other users. And a question for you: You say that Reddit is not in favor of free speech because it banned subs like…

Then why did they ban /r/Holodomor? Ideological motivation.

Not 100% sure but probably because the top mod was an anti-semite and 9/11 truther. It doesn't seem like it was a particularly active sub though.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by ChrisKnott »

swebs wrote: post #226

>This comment by spez is also interesting For what its worth, Spez was caught abusing his admin access to secretly edit comments in the past, including other people's comments who he disagreed with politically. I would doubt any comment posted on reddit where Spez has stake in, as he might have just changed the story sometime down the line.

This is a very misleading characterization of what happened.

It was not secret, it was on one occasion, and it was to make a light-hearted joke at the expense of /r/The_Donald users who were calling him a paedophile.

It was a massive error of judgement, but you have tried to make out it was some kind of on-going political subterfuge.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by Knugens »

squarefoot wrote: post #26

Just the one question: alternatives? Not necessarily already established and crowded platform, but also free and open, privacy friendly ones that can be slowly brought to self sustaining levels by enthusiasts, so that they can attract normal users.

Well I would definitely stay away from Voat. Unless you're a right-wing extremist who thinks jews control the world and that science is a lie.

Since HN is mostly meant for developers and people with science degrees, I guess the anti-science and anti-intellectual part is a big dealbreaker.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by brodouevencode »

gonzo41 wrote: post #48
kchr wrote: post #25

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I don't believe GP is debating whether Reddit is popular. People will put their "content" on whatever platform appears "free" and easy to use.

I know, but is any social media not run top down? I don't see the issue with it. They pay for the servers. Maybe we are expecting too much?

Maybe but they sell it as something different

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by DavidVoid »

nhylated wrote: post #96
squarefoot wrote: post #26

Just the one question: alternatives? Not necessarily already established and crowded platform, but also free and open, privacy friendly ones that can be slowly brought to self sustaining levels by enthusiasts, so that they can attract normal users.

http://voat.co/

It's only a good alternative if you're looking to hang out with people who really like to use the n-word and who believe that everything is Jewish conspiracy.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by DavidVoid »

umvi wrote: post #167
cies wrote: post #138

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So you want law to protect people that say "all X should be killed", then X is not demonstrably super violent/intolerant in the first place? Let's say someone campaigns that all people that have gay sex should be killed: do you want this "speech" protected? Well: I dont. That's why I think "intolerance of the intolerant" is good. Most law books in developed democracies agree with me. White supremacists, racists, fasc…

How about religious people who believe gay marriage/abortion should be illegal? Should they be shut down as well?

Depends on what they're doing. They definitely shouldn't be allowed to harass gay weddings and health centers that perform abortions.

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by ethanwillis »

DavidVoid wrote: post #231
ethanwillis wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then why did they ban /r/Holodomor? Ideological motivation.

Not 100% sure but probably because the top mod was an anti-semite and 9/11 truther. It doesn't seem like it was a particularly active sub though.

It's interesting that your rationale is so similar to the same old propaganda. If you're going to make those claims you should source it, otherwise it's just a convenient way to dismiss this without really engaging.

  In 1987, Tottle published his controversial book as Fraud, Famine, and Fascism: 
  the Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard, in which he asserts that 
  claims the Holodomor was an intentional genocide are "fraudulent", and "a 
  creation of Nazi propagandists". [1]

  Russian publicist Yuri Mukhin has a published a book titled "Hysterical Women of 
  the Holodomor", dismissing Holodomor as "Russophobia" and "a trump card of the 
  Ukrainian Nazis." [2]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Holodomor#Dougla...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Holodomor#Denial...

Re: Reddit’s About page doesn't include Aaron Swartz as a founder

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Post by swebs »

ChrisKnott wrote: post #232
swebs wrote: post #226

>This comment by spez is also interesting For what its worth, Spez was caught abusing his admin access to secretly edit comments in the past, including other people's comments who he disagreed with politically. I would doubt any comment posted on reddit where Spez has stake in, as he might have just changed the story sometime down the line.

This is a very misleading characterization of what happened. It was not secret, it was on one occasion, and it was to make a light-hearted joke at the expense of /r/The_Donald users who were calling him a paedophile. It was a massive error of judgement, but you have tried to make out it was some kind of on-going political subterfuge.

But that may have well just been the first incident where he was caught red handed. Who knows how many other incidents he got away with? I have no faith in the integrity of reddit administration, especially Spez. The fact that he wasn't fired immediately means reddit staff does not take these issues seriously.
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