I have a contrarian view that this is a very good ideas to get rid of the duopoly of Apple and Google App Store.
These companies charge 30% of all sales and in a country like India where margins are low, that can be a huge chunk of profits .
I also believe that there should be a baseline for what apps can come preinstalled on a new phone - because India is a hotbed for low cost Chinese mobiles that are subsidized by the CCP and in turn send all user data to China.
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#252I don't like a government owned & controlled app store any better than the current status quo.
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> but this is part of the reason I like that Apple makes (practically) all purchases run through them. I vehemently disagree - in the name of "protecting privacy" Apple has been fooling users to believe that only Apple can be trusted with user data, and the biggest lie they sell is that they don't do anything with your data, unlike other corporates. From crippling Safari by allowing full cookies by default, and claim…
Do you have evidence of anything being mined?
Apple’s careers page has job listings indicating they are using an industry standard data warehousing, ETL, star schema etc. user analytics stack for something. I don’t think any specific claims they made about privacy are false (they have many different products and services), but they are definitely doing some kind of data mining.
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> This is going to be a big mess. PayTM as a company isn’t known for respecting user privacy. Controversial opinion here, but this is part of the reason I like that Apple makes (practically) all purchases run through them. They don’t sell my information, and they have an incentive to not change that.
> but this is part of the reason I like that Apple makes (practically) all purchases run through them. I vehemently disagree - in the name of "protecting privacy" Apple has been fooling users to believe that only Apple can be trusted with user data, and the biggest lie they sell is that they don't do anything with your data, unlike other corporates. From crippling Safari by allowing full cookies by default, and claim…
Very strange to call Apple out as being a liar and can't be trusted with user data because of Safari's cookie and tracker policy.
Because of all the browsers they have led the way in reducing the ability for advertisers to track you.
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But big businesses have been created so it's not entirely true. Do you have any good examples where you think innovation has been stifled on the play store? (Apple's app store aside)
> big businesses have been created so it's not entirely true. examples?
Tiktok?
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Do you have evidence of anything being mined?
Apple’s careers page has job listings indicating they are using an industry standard data warehousing, ETL, star schema etc. user analytics stack for something. I don’t think any specific claims they made about privacy are false (they have many different products and services), but they are definitely doing some kind of data mining.
Apple does product analytics.
Whenever you install/update iOS/OSX they specifically ask you if you want to send anonymised data to Apple which details how you are using the OS. They couldn't be more upfront and clear about it.
And when I was working at Apple years ago they were using a very old and clunky SAP system for all of their customer purchases. It would be pretty common sense to ETL this to a data lake in order to do reports e.g. which apps are popular.
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#258It seems most people are arguing that the only alternative to 2 app stores is a large number of app stores. But what if the alternative is no app stores? Anyone can install whatever software they want on their device from wherever they want it. Just like it works for desktops. The need for app stores is an artificially created need (by the marketing brilliance of Jobs).
>But what if the alternative is no app stores? Anyone can install whatever software they want on their device from wherever they want it There was already an open, accessible, free app store called - 'Internet Browser' upon which Internet was built. These companies undermined it in collusion with the duopolies to hoard more data from their customers and are now crying wolf.
Do you mean web apps? Today they are powerful, but in 2008 browsers based web apps could not have access to a lot of things native apps could, I think, so native was inevitable, hence the AppStore.
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What exactly is the cost of having my store activity sold to someone ? 30% cut is a very real one
It's not about selling your store activity. The apps on these stores do not comply with basic guideline like having a privacy policy, not forcing users to give access to all permissions, etc.
So basically just like the internet and PCs - no guarantees given ? I don't have a problem with this and I don't really see the value add for the 30% cut.
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You made some good points and then started making the same points that the extreme Hindutva trolls make - that the students are supporters of muslim fundamentals merely because they ask questions. What is the "long standing tradition" that you are referring to?
lol, yup - Muslims are the Indian bogeyman. Similar to how African Americans and Hispanics are looked at in the U.S. The value for life is non-existent in India, unfortunately.
Did 'African Americans and Hispanics' invade, plunder, rape, kill and convert the local US population at any time in History?