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What is the best dumb TV?

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Interesting read. I wonder if we're going to get to a point where dumb TVs' prices > Smart TVs'

I doubt https://www.manufactum.com carries anything as downmarket as TV's, but since their schtick is grandma-style at high prices, if they ever do that'll be a place to look for spendy dumb TV panels. (1 EUR = 1,17 USD)

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Good point... Would 'heavily subsidized by' work as well?

Subsidized implies that the revenue from advertising defers the cost to the end user. This isn't generally true for TVs. With TVs, the sticker price pays for the hardware. The ads pay for the extra house the manufacturer's CEO feels he's entitled to have.

Not so much. That's why, as a bunch of other comments mentioned, there's commercial displays available with equivalent specs to smart tvs that are essentially dumb terminals with no smart functionality that cost more than twice the price.

Your data is subsidizing the low hardware costs.

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Recommending a 4k TV at 50" is really weird. You can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080 at that size until you get closer than 7 feet, and if you're the kind of person who lives in a place with enough room for a couch and a TV, you're not putting only 6 feet between them. Either it's a small room and your couch is up against one wall and the TV up against the other, or you have a large room, and the couch is still more than 6 feet away from the TV.

If you want a dumb TV, get a 50" or even 55" 1080p TV and save yourself hundreds of dollars that you can spend on literally anything else that'll make your "TV" (but who are we kidding: netflix and youtube) watching more enjoyable. But a popcorn maker and 10lbs of popcorn. Get a reasonable sound bar. Get many nights of take-out for in-home movie dates with your SO. Hundreds of dollars go a long way.

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I don't have a TV, only a few monitors (it's very liberating, actually). So instead I'll talk about my microwave. Yes, unironically! :D It has two dials. OMG how do I survive with only two dials? How do I program it? Well, the answer is, unsurprisingly, that I don't program it. Instead I crank it to watever wattage I need (usually the top one), and the time I think it'll take until the food I becomes hot. Aaaand that…

My microwave also has those two dials, which I use a lot. Plus a whole array of other buttons and functions I've never used.

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Recommending a 4k TV at 50" is really weird. You can't tell the difference between 4k and 1080 at that size until you get closer than 7 feet, and if you're the kind of person who lives in a place with enough room for a couch and a TV, you're not putting only 6 feet between them. Either it's a small room and your couch is up against one wall and the TV up against the other, or you have a large room, and the couch is s…

This comment is insanely wrong about resolution, assuming you have 20/20 vision.

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You have an actual variable power microwave? Not a duty cycle power control??

Now I am curious of how most microwaves are modulating power.

Every mw I’ve ever owned or used turns the magnetron on and off. If it’s a 1000W unit and you set it to 300W, it’ll only heat 30% of the time. You can hear it from the noise it makes, it’s slightly louder when the magnetron is on.

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At a reasonable price Loewe make the best TVs that have the ‘good’ parts of smart, and none of the intrusive and privacy-invading parts. The interface is minimal, the sound and picture are amazing, and the units themselves look beautiful[1]

Bang&Olufsen do all the above, at an unreasonable price[2]

[1] https://www.loewe.tv/int

[2] https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/televisions

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You have an actual variable power microwave? Not a duty cycle power control??

Perhaps I was imprecise. It has a stepped dial, with pre-set wattages. Caveat for not being an electrician. ^^

But the “wattages” just pulse the thing on and off right? I’ve never heard of a home microwave that can apply true variable power. If you have one I’ll buy it.

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I don't have a TV, only a few monitors (it's very liberating, actually). So instead I'll talk about my microwave. Yes, unironically! :D It has two dials. OMG how do I survive with only two dials? How do I program it? Well, the answer is, unsurprisingly, that I don't program it. Instead I crank it to watever wattage I need (usually the top one), and the time I think it'll take until the food I becomes hot. Aaaand that…

> wattage (energy output) Nope, power output.

energy output per unit time

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My advice is to stop seeing a “smart tv” as a feature and see it as an expensive piece of equipment subsidised by extra advertising revenue. Don’t get upset about this, just understand it for what it is. Now, what can you do about it? Easy, don’t connect it to the internet. They will tell you that it needs updates but come on, what is a security vulnerability going to to to something that’s only output is a screen an…

no no no. this is bad advice. 1) "Some Samsung TVs already try and connect to open WiFi networks if you don't connect them yourself." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24629155 2) there is ethernet over hdmi - I would image this is another source of inadvertent connection. 3) samsung tvs require an ethernet cable to "update firmware" so HDMI works. 4) ACR - which will look at ALL the inputs. and wait for the next…

Samsung TVs are an extreme example though. They’re the most obnoxious and the most disrespectful of your privacy by implementing all these dark patterns. Not to mention their QLED bullshit, it’s just LED but it’s meant to make you think it’s OLED and pay extra.

I despise Samsung and their junk.

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