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It's more about them keeping it secret; secrets are some of the most valuable currency.

But then it has nothing to do with being bi... unless they're secretely bi, in which case it has nothing to do with cheating...

Factually speaking yes but practically speaking gay/straight people tend to be doubly touchy about their partner "playing for the other team" so to speak. Which... I mean, cheating is cheating is cheating lol

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That’s appalling Bug bounties are are well and good, but a basic pen test would have picked that up. They aren’t that expensive and for a business trading in data that can get you killed in some parts of the world, should be mandatory.

It's not a bug. It is either a backdoor placed there from the design/implementation or super lazy programming. I don't want to think it's done on purpose (Hanlon's razor).

If it were a malicious backdoor, it wouldn't have been "hidden" in the response to the _actual_ password reset request form.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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> I don't know how common bi-men are (probably more than bi erasure makes us believe) They're not that common. The literature shows a bimodal straight/gay distribution of homosexual tendency in men and a more Gaussian distribution in women.

The "bi erasure" phenomenon is that if a man is bi, many will believe he's just gay but in denial. Because he may prefer to be seen as straight than gay, he may just let everyone think he's straight. This would reduce how many men appear to be bi in surveys.

It also may be because of what I observe as 'masculine thinking' vs. 'feminine thinking'. It appears to be drawn biologically from the genetic male sex and 'male brain' vs. genetic female sex and 'female brain'. Natural variations exist in all things, but if you look at what's most common, with biological sex differences (whch feed cultural 'stereotypes'), they still are what they are.

See Robert Green's book "The Laws of Human Nature" (2018) for his take on the following. It's very insightful. (Chapter entitled, "The Law of Gender Rigidity")

'Masculine thinking' prefers to categorise and bifurcate. (Dualism.) I'm a guy and I consider myself having a 'super' 'male' brain in some aspects even more than the average. I find it very hard to multi-task, and I easily hyperfocus.

Male thinking solves problems by breaking things down and focusing on one part of the picture at a time. It's about specialisation.

Female thinking treats things more as a whole, with everything connected. It solves problems by looking at the whole picture at once. It's about multi-tasking.

I now see that 'male thinking' (as opposed to males), such as 'specialisation', dominates modern capitalism and public policy, and often to detriment. Most females at top levels in business at this time in our culture would appear to mostly have this success because they are 'atypically' strong in 'masculine thinking'.

Personally, I think such leadership needs more female thinking. I'm slowly trying to understand it more, as my own starting point. Modern diversity policies that change what's on the outside (how many penises are around the table) don't actually solve the real problems. We're still picking what's taking place on the inside. We need diversity of things far deeper - to embrace and celebrate true 'feminine thinking' - not just what's on the surface.

So anyway, this could help explain why female sexuality is seen to be more 'fluid', on average, than among males. It's not so much how people actually are, as how people see themselves, because of how they tend to be wired. And this is not even factoring in that there is greater cultural stigma around a male being bi vs. a female being bi.

I am a male, and 100% bi.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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Governments. It was likely used by governments. Bi men who live straight lives with a wife and family are ridiculously common. The ability to blackmail those people is extremely valuable to certain state organizations.

I wonder why you are getting downvoted so much. I don't know how common bi-men are (probably more than bi erasure makes us believe) but it feels like a least a portion of them are not ready to come out as bi.

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Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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Governments. It was likely used by governments. Bi men who live straight lives with a wife and family are ridiculously common. The ability to blackmail those people is extremely valuable to certain state organizations.

I've never been gay or bi, and I've never used Grindr, but I have held government security clearances for almost 40 years. It's a lot different today than it was back then. Early on, I knew several people who had "experimented" in college, and they were denied clearances. (Actually the government never officially denied them because that would require an explanation of the criteria used for the denial. Instead, it wa…

Foreign governments blackmailing US government staff is only one side of the equation. There is, of course, the whole "but what would the wife/churchfellows think?" issue, still, but there are still many countries that do not take the same enlightened view that the US does.

It's entirely possible that even the ability to verify that a particular email address has a Grindr account may be enough to threaten a person with imprisonment or death in several countries I can think of off the top of my head.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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It's more about them keeping it secret; secrets are some of the most valuable currency.

Doesn't everyone cheat on their wife secretly? Otherwise it's not even cheating.

A wife might be accepting of a husbands bisexual adventures and not consider it cheating. What about her parents, his parents, children, family, coworkers, congregation, community, etc.

I wasn't speaking directly to that, moreso that secrets have value. Some people would reveal their secrets rather than be controlled with them, others will define the value of their secrets by what they're willing to do maintain them.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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It's more about them keeping it secret; secrets are some of the most valuable currency.

Doesn't everyone cheat on their wife secretly? Otherwise it's not even cheating.

It's easier for a straight person to pass off a straight dating/hookup site vs. a "straight" married person on a gay/bi site. The straight person can just say they used the site before they were married, etc. whereas there's no such excuse for the gay site.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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I wonder why you are getting downvoted so much. I don't know how common bi-men are (probably more than bi erasure makes us believe) but it feels like a least a portion of them are not ready to come out as bi.

> I don't know how common bi-men are (probably more than bi erasure makes us believe) They're not that common. The literature shows a bimodal straight/gay distribution of homosexual tendency in men and a more Gaussian distribution in women.

The reason is that bi men round off to gay whereas bi women round off to straight. Bi women are even sought after by straight men so even women who aren't bi will sometimes claim to be, there is really no such equivalence to bi men. This will give the kind of distribution you are talking about especially when done by surveys as this kind of research often is.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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I've never been gay or bi, and I've never used Grindr, but I have held government security clearances for almost 40 years. It's a lot different today than it was back then. Early on, I knew several people who had "experimented" in college, and they were denied clearances. (Actually the government never officially denied them because that would require an explanation of the criteria used for the denial. Instead, it wa…

It’s not really being bi that’s the problem here so much as cheating on a wife secretly

It's only cheating if you're breaking a rule to not sleep with other people. Swingers aren't cheating (assuming they're respecting any agreed upon boundary) when they're having an orgy for example.

A bi man with a wife and a family could very well be having sexual encounters with men once in a while with the agreement of his wife (who could well have her own stuff going on too) and it could be a very healthy thing in what is a fulfilling relationship for both parties.

Re: Hacking Grindr Accounts with Copy and Paste

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It’s not really being bi that’s the problem here so much as cheating on a wife secretly

Are bi guys that much more likely to do this than straight ones? I could believe 2x, but it doesn't seem like an order of magnitude kind of difference

It's not about cheating. It's about people other than your spouse learning you have sex with men.

This remains something quite a lot of people want to remain secret.

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