Live data from Hacker News

What is the best dumb TV?

pointerclicker.com

181–190 of 661 posts

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#181
post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My TCL starts to bootloop if it goes more than a month without connecting to the internet so it can download screensaver ads. The warranty people force me into the support gauntlet. The support gauntlet's first demand: connect it to the internet.

Edit: Didn't know TCL is a brand, not available in my part of the world... - What brand is your TV?

TCL is the brand. (I hadn't heard of it either)

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#182

I’ve had good luck with sceptre brand TVs. They are no frills and cheap. Plug in a $30 roku and hook it up to some decent speakers and you are good to go. I’ve had two of them going on 8 years strong now. Loads of connectivity to. From vga to dvi to component/composite, 1/8” audio in/out, spdif, hdmi, etc, etc. On the other hand the power supply in my (former) LG plasma tv died after 1.5 years. I DIY replaced that wi…

It's worth noting that Roku devices apparently send a lot of information about your usage habits back to their servers, so if "privacy" is one of your reasons for choosing a dumb TV, perhaps Roku's not the best choice. Not sure if there are authoritative deep dives out there, but here's what the Pi-hole folks saw: https://pi-hole.net/2018/09/19/what-really-happens-on-your-n... I was disappointed but not surprised to…

I have two Roku devices, never been particularly enthused with the response times using the remotes: they've both had issues recognizing signals and screens take a while to load. However, I do like that I can turn my TV on from my phone. I will probably look for a dumb TV at some point, but I'm also hoping to get a pi-hole setup to increase privacy in the meantime.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All smart TV's are dumb if you don't connect them to the Internet.

They won't spy on you, but you'll still have to deal with the laggy shitware they run. In some I've had the misfortune of using, simply changing the inputs was a torturous affair because of the shitty software the TV was running.

There are lots of shitwares that don't do async, so the shitware runs at a snail's pace offline because all the spyware requests have to time out before the shitware can do anything.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#184
post #177

Many comments suggest never connecting smart TVs to the Internet, and others rightly point out that the TV could seek out open APs. What about deploying some hardware to basically launch a deauth attack on the TV whenever it tries to connect to anything? Wi-PWN[0] looks like a fairly good starting place for this since it can be flashed on an ESP8266. It’d probably need some tweaks for this use-case though. [0] https:…

Is that cheaper than just buying a dumb TV?

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#186
The displays in the article are TVs for people who hate their eyeballs. If you are looking for a quality picture there's really no substitute for LG OLED. They are smart TVs but the features are unobtrusive and work well.

If you want extremely good picture quality and also insist on "dumb" the best you can get is a second-hand Pioneer or Panasonic plasma display. I don't think any of these ever had "smart" anything, and their image quality is top notch.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#187
Dumb TVs are disappearing, monitors are more pricey, and panels for digital signage even more; so why not attempting a different approach like gutting a smart TV then connecting the panel to an external driver?

It has been done with smaller monitors, through dirt cheap boards that made possible adding HDMI to old VGA-only panels, for example: https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=S...

How difficult/expensive would be to scale the same solution to 4K panels?

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#188

The displays in the article are TVs for people who hate their eyeballs. If you are looking for a quality picture there's really no substitute for LG OLED. They are smart TVs but the features are unobtrusive and work well. If you want extremely good picture quality and also insist on "dumb" the best you can get is a second-hand Pioneer or Panasonic plasma display. I don't think any of these ever had "smart" anything,…

I have an LG smart TV of some sort and haven't noticed any advertising on it at any point. Happy with it.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#189

I’ve had good luck with sceptre brand TVs. They are no frills and cheap. Plug in a $30 roku and hook it up to some decent speakers and you are good to go. I’ve had two of them going on 8 years strong now. Loads of connectivity to. From vga to dvi to component/composite, 1/8” audio in/out, spdif, hdmi, etc, etc. On the other hand the power supply in my (former) LG plasma tv died after 1.5 years. I DIY replaced that wi…

I got a tv with built-in Roku, and its actually pretty nice. I can change volume, select hdmi inputs and power on/off the tv with the Roku remote (and app) now.

Re: What is the best dumb TV?

#190
I gave away my TV a little over a year ago now, with absolutely no regrets.

But if I still had one, I’d definitely be looking into rooting it specifically so I could uninstall all the bloat they now come with and ensure it doesn’t try and connect to the internet, or break itself while trying.

Post reply on HN