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Privacy is the most important concept of our time

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Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A much better solution is to overhaul our immigration system Why not instead fix this problem? > Most undocumented workers in the US come from countries where their next best alternative is being exploited by cartels.

Your suggestion is rather than modifying our immigration system, why not simply eliminate crime globally?

I mean I have no issues with fixing the immigration system.

My issue is with the problem being the cartels which the US has had a lot of historical connections with their rise to power, so I feel like 1) we have a lot of responsibility because of that 2) those countries don't fully have the means to solve the issues by themselves (obviously we shouldn't just go in uninvited), 3) we'd be attacking the root of the problem which is beneficial to both people here (from drug war effects) to people there (also drug war effects).

Trying to claim I said we should simply eliminate global crime is not a good faith read. It is a far exaggeration from what I said. Clearly a laudable goal, but we can significantly slash NA and SA cartel power without coming anywhere near solving global crime. If we consider Pareto effects this would probably be a better way to spend resources too. But the answer of how to do this is complex (not that fixing the immigration system is by any means simple). Saying that reducing cartel power is impossible perpetuates the problem and in of itself is a problem because it does not allow us to have the conversation in the first place.

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

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I think this essay conflates the notion of privacy and property and goes off the rails from there. I get what he's trying to say, but I don't think it has much to do with the the ordinary sense of the word privacy. If he's saying that the boundary between the individual and the collective is a core social construct, then, sure. But there are other, much better discussions of that topic, going back thousands of years.

Privacy is just another way the author states personal boundaries. and I think what the author is trying to state is there is a dossier of GPS locations, messages, and contacts you have made available to the Tech Giants and in the future they may not be as benevolent as they are now. They may be able to create an environment of chaos like throwing the damned into a colosseum to tear each other apart for their own amusement. Who knows? The people who run this industry are aloof billionaires. I don't know what future they have in store for all of us anymore than you or the author does.

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US had completely open borders for its first hundred years or so. It wasn't until 1875 with the Page Act, which restricted Chinese women, that we stopped having wide open borders. That was followed by the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 which covered Chinese men. For white people the borders remained wide open. In the late 19th century some restrictions where added on white people, too, but the borders were still e…

Thank you for the response! Could I have some references for these claims? Not that I doubt you but this historical context seems very important to the debate.

Here is an article about the history of US immigration [1]. I got the big picture from there, and looked up the mentioned specific laws on Wikipedia.

[1] https://newrepublic.com/article/154717/open-borders-made-ame...

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

#205

I had some chickens on my lawn the other day. Someone driving by stopped, started video recording me, my family, my neighbors, and the birds with their phone (I assume that's what he was doing, that's what it looked like) for a minute or two, then he drove off. He didn't say a word. He didn't respond when I waved. By my standards of social behavior that dude is a fucking creep and (years ago) I would have tried to go…

Or you can approach them in a friendly manner and talk about your Chickens, why are they so fascinated and make a new friend. My advice is to try to understand that your judgement is probably not aligned to malice of the intruder, instead verify with friendliness and if they’re still “creepy”, by all means proceed with your action plan. Love each other and our neighbors. Dude probably just wanted to send it to his gi…

Why would you be friendly towards somebody who has just taken unwanted photos of you without your permission?

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

#206

I had some chickens on my lawn the other day. Someone driving by stopped, started video recording me, my family, my neighbors, and the birds with their phone (I assume that's what he was doing, that's what it looked like) for a minute or two, then he drove off. He didn't say a word. He didn't respond when I waved. By my standards of social behavior that dude is a fucking creep and (years ago) I would have tried to go…

Perhaps it's a generational thing because I don't see a problem with what happened, at all.

I’m a millennial and I don’t understand how this is not a problem. People need boundaries and ownership in order to thrive. Yes some things should be shared but everything is a balance. You cannot just have anyone walking into your house. Similarly, taking photos of you and your family in a private space ) (albeit public-facing) is a socially indecent and disrespectful move. While not legally enforceable, I can understand why this concerns privacy.

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

#208

Privacy is dead. Why do we think we have anything close to agency over our self when advertising and — in general — profiteering by trafficking in the private lives of individuals is the force that it is today?

Unless the government kills privacy (with law), I couldn't disagree more. I'm building https://owlmail.io to help improve your privacy online by reducing the "personal email everywhere" problem. Owl Mail is just one tiny project among countless others working toward a world with better privacy.

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

#209

I had some chickens on my lawn the other day. Someone driving by stopped, started video recording me, my family, my neighbors, and the birds with their phone (I assume that's what he was doing, that's what it looked like) for a minute or two, then he drove off. He didn't say a word. He didn't respond when I waved. By my standards of social behavior that dude is a fucking creep and (years ago) I would have tried to go…

On the other side of the coin: maybe he didn't see you wave because he's on a video call and looking at the caller's face. Maybe he didn't want to step onto your property or disturb your day because that is often seen as aggressive behavior. Maybe he didn't actually stop for the reason you think he did and just happened to notice the chickens and pointed to take a photo. Calling the cops is a ridiculous reaction to j…

Not calling cops because the mass media is trying to convince everyone that all cops are stone cold killers is ridiculous. You are far more likely to die on your way to the grocery than you are to get death by cop

Re: Privacy is the most important concept of our time

#210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Someone driving by stopped, started video recording me... > ... maybe he didn't see you wave because he's on a video call and looking at the caller's face ... So maybe the creeper was on a video call looking at the caller's face, while driving? Nope. There's no excuse for that creepy behavior.

How is taking photos/video of someones chickens creepy.

Because it's also his entire family and chickens. It is creepy unless you're a professional photographer. Social boundaries are there for a reason.
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