Someone should make an app for jailbroken phones to disable this location logging (or delete it regularly).. many would likely pay for it!
IPhones and 3G iPads log your location in an unencrypted file on the device
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#32Does no one else agree with me that this is awesome? I love being able to visualize my comings and goings. It's the story of the last year or so of my life, in colored dots.
I hope Apple doesn't respond to the "outrage" by no longer collecting this data. To a first order approximation, I am with Scott McNealy over in the "Privacy?! Get over it" camp:
http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538
As an aside, can real outrage even exist anymore in this age of the easy forum post or re-tweet or tumblr entry or Facebook post? And if it does, how do you identify it? And if you can identify it, what does it mean?
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#33I can sort of understand the outrage but I don't see the utility of it. Apps that are written for the App store don't have access to this data without the permission of the user. And the only way an app would be allowed access to a file outside the sandbox is if its jailbroken. I'm not familiar with the in and outs of iOS LocationManager but it generally gives you the immediate coordinates at the time you request and…
Maybe because of things like this? >A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections. >"Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, con…
and can even defeat password protections.
yes, with access to a plist file from iTunes
[credit to morganpyne http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2465752]
Re: IPhones and 3G iPads log your location in an unencrypted file on the device
#34The simple solution is select encrypt backups in your iTunes options. If my computer or phone got stolen, I'd have more important things to worry about than whether the thief can find a list of locations I've been. It's fun/interesting to see it mapped out though.
How will encrypting my backup prevent someone with access to my phone from getting this information?
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#35The simple solution is select encrypt backups in your iTunes options. If my computer or phone got stolen, I'd have more important things to worry about than whether the thief can find a list of locations I've been. It's fun/interesting to see it mapped out though.
Encrypting backups won't encrypt the original file on your phone.
I thought they added something in iOS 3 that did encrypt the phone and that's why the erase is so fast now?
I also assume that if you put a passcode on with the 'erase after 10 incorrect attempts' setting that this would be permanently erased if they get your passcode wrong 10 times...?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is QoS? I agree that it's not a security risk from an app store perspective but I'd still prefer not to be tracked.
Quality of service. Like when the iPhone 3G first came out you could only buy it in areas where 3G service was available. AFAIK, most carriers already do this on all their handsets but their data is restricted to just a few days to a a few months.
Right, if QoS were a concern to att, my phone would not drop/fail to make seriously, 75% of the calls.
I am switching to Tmobile because ATT makes me want to go on a rampage. Of course, now using this file, they'll be able to predict where that rampage will occur.
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#37Okay, but do the devices do this if 'Location Services' are turned off.
And I assume Cydia will now get an app that forces them off if the os ignores the setting.
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#38If the man really wants your location, he can just ask the phone company.
'the man' could always get that info, sure. but now, anyone with access to your phone or computer can.
Including anyone that hacks into either, and they wouldn't even have to install anything suspicious to do location tracking or even have compromised your phone during the period they were interested in.
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#39Does no one else agree with me that this is awesome? I love being able to visualize my comings and goings. It's the story of the last year or so of my life, in colored dots. I hope Apple doesn't respond to the "outrage" by no longer collecting this data. To a first order approximation, I am with Scott McNealy over in the "Privacy?! Get over it" camp: http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538 As an aside, c…
I love being able to visualize my comings and goings.
Then use something like Latitude. There are options for you if you want to see this data other than having Apple collect data from all users whether they like it or not.
Re: IPhones and 3G iPads log your location in an unencrypted file on the device
#40Does no one else agree with me that this is awesome? I love being able to visualize my comings and goings. It's the story of the last year or so of my life, in colored dots. I hope Apple doesn't respond to the "outrage" by no longer collecting this data. To a first order approximation, I am with Scott McNealy over in the "Privacy?! Get over it" camp: http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/1999/01/17538 As an aside, c…
Sex is pretty awesome, too, unless you don't get any say in the matter.