If the man really wants your location, he can just ask the phone company.
IPhones and 3G iPads log your location in an unencrypted file on the device
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#22If the man really wants your location, he can just ask the phone company.
'the man' could always get that info, sure.
but now, anyone with access to your phone or computer can.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe because of things like this? >A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and video off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections. >"Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, con…
Do you have references for those claims?
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#24Funny, I had to go to a location without internet access, but where I periodically have to "mark" where I am so I can reference it later. I was about to write my own app for this purpose when I saw this post. To boot, I had my iPhone on me the last few days anyway, so this will definitely come in handy.
Despite the utility I got out of this, I wish we would be told about it...
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#25If the man really wants your location, he can just ask the phone company.
I'm not so much worried about the man, (I've given up on that battle) as much as I'm worried about the people out there who like to stick it to the man by whatever neferaous means of looting and pilliging they see fit.
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#26I'll be checking in here for technical questions. The github direct link is http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/
Thanks for putting it online. I have a similar project not involving the iPhone logs, but I'm looking to using your visualizations to make sense of the data that I've been collecting.
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#27The simple solution is select encrypt backups in your iTunes options. If my computer or phone got stolen, I'd have more important things to worry about than whether the thief can find a list of locations I've been. It's fun/interesting to see it mapped out though.
You may not worry about this, but others might (and I can think of scenarios where this would be a very bad thing), and it certainly isn't apparent to most people that if your phone gets stolen, the thief has access to your location history.
Well, it probably wasn't apparent to many (or any) thieves either, but it is now.
Anyway, of course I'd agree it's worth fixing on Apple's part. In the meantime... hold onto your phones, I guess?
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#28I can sort of understand the outrage but I don't see the utility of it. Apps that are written for the App store don't have access to this data without the permission of the user. And the only way an app would be allowed access to a file outside the sandbox is if its jailbroken. I'm not familiar with the in and outs of iOS LocationManager but it generally gives you the immediate coordinates at the time you request and…
What is QoS? I agree that it's not a security risk from an app store perspective but I'd still prefer not to be tracked.
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#29I'll be checking in here for technical questions. The github direct link is http://petewarden.github.com/iPhoneTracker/
Pete, the iPhone Tracker application is showing data points in a grid-like pattern, with multiple points visible simultaneously.
I haven't dug into the raw data - is that an artifact of the iPhone Tracker application, or is the raw data already rounded by Apple to fit on a grid, with multiple locations having identical timestamps?
How much I care about this depends a lot on the granularity of the underlying data.
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#30It might not be directly related but there was a news story on CNET [1] yesterday about cops in Michigan using a device from Cellebrite to download information from phones of people they stopped for violations that includes contacts, phone logs, messages, photographs and location history. Does Apple's decision of having such information stored on the phone unencrypted make it easy for such devices? The device claims…
I've actually used that device before. It's fairly common in law enforcement and inteligence agencies, and it will take everything. Including passwords/deleted info. There is no reason for using it on a traffic stop though, that's just straight up invasion of privacy and would piss me off to no end. It's use is (and should be) for the more criminal/forensic cases.