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How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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FYI, the worst side-effect of Modafinil (beyond addiction) is that it makes your urine smell bad (or worse depending on what kind of diet you already have.) When Modafinil metabolizes it breaks down into sulfur and sodium, so you get salty smelly urine.

How do you know it's salty?

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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I’ve taken Modafinil extensively while I was launching my first start-up and still working full time. For six months I was waking up at 4am every day, working until 7am, having a one-hour nap, then off to work until 6pm… Bed-time around 10-11pm. I wouldn’t have been able to launch without Modafinil (I’m actually using Alertec rather than Provigil, it’s a bit cheaper). Those days I took up to 1.5 pills a day (150mg) -…

There are several places in this comment where you forgot to write "that I know of".

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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Am I the only one against performance enhancing drugs?

I'm with you. Nothing needs to be done that urgently that you need to do drugs. I put little stock in the "no side effects" voices. The body wasn't made to do this sort of thing, forcing it to just can't be good.

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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post #11

FYI, the worst side-effect of Modafinil (beyond addiction) is that it makes your urine smell bad (or worse depending on what kind of diet you already have.) When Modafinil metabolizes it breaks down into sulfur and sodium, so you get salty smelly urine.

How do you know it's salty?

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Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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I've tried Provigil, and found it wasn't really all it was cracked up to be. The only thing it really does is make you less tired. I guess that's great if you want to be awake for 40 hours at a time, but for mental clarity and sharper thought: Drink water.

Drink a LOT of water. I bet that half of these guys taking Provigil because they need the 'edge' have never forced themselves to drink a gallon of regular old water in a day. Soda, coffee, and tea don't count. You'd be amazed how many people spend years in a state of mild dehydration.

Drinking water has given the biggest improvement to me mentally, far and away. In second place is not eating meat during the workday; but that pales in comparison to just drinking enough water.

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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No. I am too. I have commented before on how offensive posts like this are for so many reasons. It ususally turns out to be me against the world. So I don't even bother anymore. But now that I saw your question, I decided to throw my 2 cents in (again). AFAIC, with few exceptions, everything we do is a marathon, not a sprint. So using crutches for sprints is, at best, myoptic. Any stimulant, I don't care which (food,…

I think I can see why it turns into "you vs the world". Can you back up those broad claims?

Can you back up those broad claims?

What broad claims?

I think I can see why it turns into "you vs the world".

Sounds pretty much like you're making a "claim" yourself. Care to back up what you "see" with a little data?

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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I’ve taken Modafinil extensively while I was launching my first start-up and still working full time. For six months I was waking up at 4am every day, working until 7am, having a one-hour nap, then off to work until 6pm… Bed-time around 10-11pm. I wouldn’t have been able to launch without Modafinil (I’m actually using Alertec rather than Provigil, it’s a bit cheaper). Those days I took up to 1.5 pills a day (150mg) -…

I wouldn’t have been able to launch without Modafinil...

How do you know? Did you try?

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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I think I can see why it turns into "you vs the world". Can you back up those broad claims?

Can you back up those broad claims? What broad claims? I think I can see why it turns into "you vs the world". Sounds pretty much like you're making a "claim" yourself. Care to back up what you "see" with a little data?

>What broad claims?

>Any stimulant, I don't care which (food, drugs, etc.) has another side, i.e., what goes up must go down.

Re: How Many Silicon Valley Startup Executives Are Hopped Up On Provigil?

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Can you back up those broad claims? What broad claims? I think I can see why it turns into "you vs the world". Sounds pretty much like you're making a "claim" yourself. Care to back up what you "see" with a little data?

>What broad claims? >Any stimulant, I don't care which (food, drugs, etc.) has another side, i.e., what goes up must go down.

It's not a broad claim. It's common knowledge. Ask any doctor. Or scientist. Perhaps you can email the question to this guy

http://www.drfuhrman.com/

and maybe even learn something else in the process.

I'm not wasting any more time debating non-hacker issues here at hacker news. There are several other excellent threads directly related to hacker news. Let's talk about those over there. This is my last comment in this thread.

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