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One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

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post #70

Spam PRs are frustrating but this rant just reads as petty and vindictive. The author claims that he doesn't "want to cancel or shame him personally", which just rings of false humility considering he named the article "How One Guy Ruined #Hacktoberfest2020" and then chose to expose his Youtube name repeatedly, something even other frustrated tweeters chose NOT to do. Here's what CodeWithHarry did: He created an exam…

I am not sure if it was entirely good faith. In the video he explicitly states (in Hindi) that this is an easy way to get a free t-shirt in few clicks, you don't even need to know anything about GitHub.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#113
post #80

Some people are giving him the benefit of doubt because you don't understand hindi. Please don't. This person really did encourage his 600k+ subscribers to spam the PRs in no uncertain words. He explained how developers with swag clothing and brand stickers look cool and get respect. He told people "it won't improve you much as a developer. But hey, free t-shirt swag, and there's a well defined path to get it. I requ…

I don’t know why the protagonist being Indian is something that would be strongly remembered. I’d guess anyone whose audience has more time than money could’ve hatched a scheme like this, regardless of nationality.

Unfortunately the largest demographic always gets demonized even if spam is not just limited to a particular group.

Through sheer scale, spammers of Indian origin may be more noticeable than others and thus reinforcing the stereotype.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#114

[edit: Possibly I'm being too hasty in recommending swearing off Open Source contributions. Go forth and contribute, I suppose :) Leaving my original comment below for completeness.] For other South Asian/Indian people like me, a pessimistic but practical counterpoint to this -- if you happen to be Indian and have a username that marks you as such, just lie low for a bit and don't contribute anything; especially duri…

> the tradeoff of marketing freebies versus being viewed negatively as a group is and a society is not worth it. The reputation comes from mediocre youtube tutorials, sweatshops like TCS and infosys, bullshit sites like geeksforgeeks, and incidents like this. I am an Indian, and I think I have no right to complain about that reputation.

> The reputation comes from mediocre youtube tutorials, sweatshops like TCS and infosys, bullshit sites like geeksforgeeks, and incidents like this.

I'm not Indian, and I think the reputation comes largely from the proportion of educated people not behind the Great Firewall of China that are Indian, and people mistaking “the proportion of people who do I see do X thar are from Y background” with “the proportion of people from Y background who do X”.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#115
post #88

Some people are giving him the benefit of doubt because you don't understand hindi. Please don't. This person really did encourage his 600k+ subscribers to spam the PRs in no uncertain words. He explained how developers with swag clothing and brand stickers look cool and get respect. He told people "it won't improve you much as a developer. But hey, free t-shirt swag, and there's a well defined path to get it. I requ…

> When everyone involved is a beginner, you get unintended outcomes. This is on DigitalOcean for coming up with a half-baked scheme, not those folks themselves. Edit: it’s amusing to see Indians taking swipes on fellow Indians. It’s a systemic problem, and the fact that you’ve somehow “risen above it” is not a reason to virtue signal.

I've gotten very tired of the term "virtue signal" being thrown around as a means to discredit someone's argument. It's both not persuasive, and it attacks the other person's intentions and not their arguments, which is not a good thing.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No reason to lie low, just continue making good, earnest PRs which look nothing like this Hacktoberfest spam. It's not the username in these examples that's the problem.

> It's not the username in these examples that's the problem. It totally is. Make a profile with a Western-sounding, preferably female name, and submit a similar typo-fix PR. I can guarantee you that it will be accepted, or at the very least, not featured on a Twitter account called "Shitoberfest". Minor typo fixes and such have been an established way to make a first bite-sized contribution to OSS projects. What cha…

>...not featured on a Twitter account called "Shitoberfest".

Do it 20k+ times and it very well may be. You appear uninformed about what is actually happening.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#117

[edit: Possibly I'm being too hasty in recommending swearing off Open Source contributions. Go forth and contribute, I suppose :) Leaving my original comment below for completeness.] For other South Asian/Indian people like me, a pessimistic but practical counterpoint to this -- if you happen to be Indian and have a username that marks you as such, just lie low for a bit and don't contribute anything; especially duri…

This is crazy that anyone should feel defined by 1 dude who just happens to have the same skin color as them.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#118
post #40

I agree that the spam is problematic, but I feel the need to call out his "data collection". As evidence that CodeWithHarry is the cause, he says > A search for "Amazing Project" is now showing 21,177 issues. and > A search for "improve docs" shows 319,251 issues. ??? Improve docs has been a common beginner level PR since the beginning of time. Do you really think that 319k spam issues have been filed in the last day…

Love this one — somebody is trying to rename "package.json" into "package":

https://github.com/dinosaurjs/website/pull/28

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#119
post #70

Spam PRs are frustrating but this rant just reads as petty and vindictive. The author claims that he doesn't "want to cancel or shame him personally", which just rings of false humility considering he named the article "How One Guy Ruined #Hacktoberfest2020" and then chose to expose his Youtube name repeatedly, something even other frustrated tweeters chose NOT to do. Here's what CodeWithHarry did: He created an exam…

The top comment in this thread (from someone who speaks the language) says that he openly encouraged people to spam meaningless PRs in order to get "free swag." I think the rebuke he is getting is deserved.

Re: One Guy Ruined Hacktoberfest 2020

#120

Some people are giving him the benefit of doubt because you don't understand hindi. Please don't. This person really did encourage his 600k+ subscribers to spam the PRs in no uncertain words. He explained how developers with swag clothing and brand stickers look cool and get respect. He told people "it won't improve you much as a developer. But hey, free t-shirt swag, and there's a well defined path to get it. I requ…

I can understand Hindi well enough to skim the video, which I just did. The impression I got was that this person was an enthusiastic YouTuber with somewhat good intentions: “get free swag”, “learn how to open a pull request which you’ll need to know how to do”, “if your pull request is garbage it’ll get rejected and you won’t get credit”. The issue was that he picked some random repository and made a useless change for sake of demonstration-I assume to make it fit in the video, but this basically set the example for everyone watching it. So unintentionally he’s taught a bunch of people who are really motivated in getting this free shirt and also maybe learning how to get into open source (not necessarily the wrong audience, but maybe a bit wet behind the ears) to spam projects. And there is nobody to guide these people but this video. I think the outcome is obvious in retrospect, but I forgive this dude for making this video although I would very much like him to make a follow up where he shows how it’s really done.

There is a general problem (everywhere, but particularly in India where there are a lot of people but very little guidance) of eager people who are willing to participate in programs that get them interested in software development and open source and coding. And I think that’s really great. The issue is that providing people with free swag and walking away is really just pretending to help, rather than actually doing work to help.

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