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Suicide Linux (2009)

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Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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ojnabieoot wrote: post #65
jmnicolas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. You're describing my (modest) experience with Javascript: it fails silently. I was describing it this way to a colleague: Javascript is a Japanese girlfriend, too polite to show you your mistakes so you have a hard time to know what you did wrong. I want a rigorous German g…

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

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Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by ojnabieoot »

ColanR wrote: post #70
ojnabieoot wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

When I read it, the comment sounded like the emphasis was on stereotypes of the culture, not the gender. Maybe you're reading too much into it.

To be clear: comments about "polite" Japanese versus "strict" Germans and "angry" Italians are also bigoted and will make many immigrant coworkers deeply uncomfortable (especially if they are women). Everything about his comment is gross and 100% inappropriate for the workplace, and civilized society in general.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by kazinator »

trickstra wrote: post #68
nexuist wrote: post #45

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I can one up you: Coworker was trying to remove node so we could install a new version, so he ran: rm -rf /usr/bin node -rf was due to muscle memory, and unfortunately he forgot the space. That was a fun one to clean up. We were able to use nc because that was in /bin and not /usr/bin, so we used that to pipe curl over through a socket and then used curl to install dpkg + apt, then ran apt update to fix everything an…

My teammate a couple years ago was writing a script that needed to clear a working directory, so `rm -rf $path/*`. He ran it during debugging and found one mistake - at some point the $path variable came in empty......

Oh I did that in a distro build script where $path was called $INSTALL, but was empty (possibly due to a misspelling of the variable). Double stupidly, I ran it as root and so $INSTALL/lib blew off the system's libraries. I recovered the machine without any rescue disk or reboot or anything, by by copying files from an installation of the same distro. Of course, no commands for copying worked. I think what I might have done is to NFS mount that machine from the other machine, and then doing the copying on that machine.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by dutchmartin »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #65
jmnicolas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. You're describing my (modest) experience with Javascript: it fails silently. I was describing it this way to a colleague: Javascript is a Japanese girlfriend, too polite to show you your mistakes so you have a hard time to know what you did wrong. I want a rigorous German g…

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

It depends on culture. HN has a lot of different nationalities writing comments. Cultures differ. Like i as a Dutch person can openly disagree on things my boss or other people say, but in other parts of the world this may not be the norm. Also note that some comments may be misplaced because of non native english speakers posting here.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by lostlogin »

dkarl wrote: post #27

> Perhaps rm -rf / should be replaced with something with more verbose flags set. That way, when you run a bad command, you are told immediately that things are being deleted This gives me an idea: Hell Linux. In Hell Linux, the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. Commands ignore all unrecognized flags. In shell sc…

> Hell Linux

As someone who accidentally moved /etc recently, I have been into the valley of darkness and wish for no further OS pain.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by nix23 »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #65
jmnicolas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. You're describing my (modest) experience with Javascript: it fails silently. I was describing it this way to a colleague: Javascript is a Japanese girlfriend, too polite to show you your mistakes so you have a hard time to know what you did wrong. I want a rigorous German g…

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

>either they would be fired or I would quit

Wow your a hell of a wannabe Whiteknight...at least fight him/her, but you will lose if it's a Italian women, but you win if it's an Italian man....especially if he plays soccer.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by rathel »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #65
jmnicolas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. You're describing my (modest) experience with Javascript: it fails silently. I was describing it this way to a colleague: Javascript is a Japanese girlfriend, too polite to show you your mistakes so you have a hard time to know what you did wrong. I want a rigorous German g…

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

Oh no, someone jokingly acknowledged that cultural differences exist. How horrible of them.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by NikolaeVarius »

lexicality wrote: post #66
nexuist wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can one up you: Coworker was trying to remove node so we could install a new version, so he ran: rm -rf /usr/bin node -rf was due to muscle memory, and unfortunately he forgot the space. That was a fun one to clean up. We were able to use nc because that was in /bin and not /usr/bin, so we used that to pipe curl over through a socket and then used curl to install dpkg + apt, then ran apt update to fix everything an…

It always scares me when people automatically add -rf after typing rm no matter what they're doing. How do you even get into that habit in the first place?

I have this bad habit. Because in linux everything is a file, so screw you rm stop telling me i can't delete that directory. Its just a file that points to another directory. Its messing up my flow.

Re: Suicide Linux (2009)

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Post by burkaman »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #65
jmnicolas wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the operating system does its best to pretend that nothing is wrong, so it takes you as long as possible to realize that you've made a mistake. You're describing my (modest) experience with Javascript: it fails silently. I was describing it this way to a colleague: Javascript is a Japanese girlfriend, too polite to show you your mistakes so you have a hard time to know what you did wrong. I want a rigorous German g…

I am from the left-liberal side of things, including my choice of employers, and I am always flummoxed when I come into HN and see developers a) make comments that are flagrantly bigoted and misogynistic b) indicate that they make comments like these to their colleagues Do devs really say horrible things like this at the workplace? If anyone on my team made jokes about Japanese vs. Italian girlfriends, either they wo…

Hopefully it stands out because of the fact that most people don't say shit like this? I don't know, I've only ever heard a sales dude say anything like this, and he was fired pretty soon after for harassing people.
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