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USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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Don't worry. USB-C and associated standards are five+ years old now. Some new standards will be along soon enough. Then we will all have to buy new chargers/cables/devices again, continuing the cycle of chasing the universal bus nirvana. https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/intel/147329-usb-4-... >> The USB 4 specification was published in late 2019 and will probably appear in devices in late 2020 or early 2021 -…

USB 4 is using USB C connector.

Same connector, but different standards. We will likely still have to buy new cables/devices to take advantage of the new features.

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. All my apple kit works fine off t…

> Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. It has worked reliably with pre…

How about you read the Nintendo docs & warranty before throwing one of your myths around. It’s a well known thing combined with their controller.

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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It's a mess, but it still seems much better than the situation before to me. It's true, you currently need to be careful when buying cables, but if you are, you can charge all your devices with the same plug. And usb-c video means your monitor can act as usb hub for keyboard and mouse over the video cable, so you only need to replug a single cable to move video and mouse and keyboard between computers. I use this a l…

> but if you are, you can charge all your devices with the same plug

I have expressly found this to not be true. I have a bluetooth headset that has a USB-C plug, but it only charges from a USB-A to USB-C cord. It also won't connect to a computer using a straight USB-C cord, but it will with a USB-C to USB-A adapter and a USB-A to USB-C cord.

The Switch won't always charge from every adapter (and some folks have reported damage from trying to use a generic adapter).

I tried to use an Apple USB-C charger with a Lenovo chromebook, and the chromebook would flash as if you were plugging and unplugging the computer every second.

I have a USB-C dock (Anker brand) for my work computer, and it works (mostly) but the power is so noisy that I have to use a separate port with a USB-C to USB-A for my USB headset.

So, yeah, USB-C is a real shitshow at my house.

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. All my apple kit works fine off t…

> Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. It has worked reliably with pre…

It's not an urban myth, Nintendo acknowledged it and told people to not use 3rd party chargers.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/08/heres-why-nintendo-sw...

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. All my apple kit works fine off t…

> Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. It has worked reliably with pre…

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Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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post #34
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. All my apple kit works fine off t…

> Aha - you may find that your Switch CANNOT in fact share a charge - Nintendo's port is not necessarily safe to use with anything but its supplied charger. And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device. I only have reputable chargers in the house from Apple and one from Anker aside from the Nintendo's own. It has worked reliably with pre…

> And I've just learned this lesson with a $60 bill from Nintendo repair after the port went pop and couldn't charge the device.

GP is giving you their first-hand experience with this issue. It’s a little disrespectful to call it an urban myth replying to a first-hand account.

FWIW, the Switch charger outputs a higher voltage, IIRC.

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

#57

I have an LG 4K monitor, a MacBook Pro, and Sony headphones that charge over USB-C, so in that scenario USB=C has been bliss. But with older machines/monitors, I need a pile of adapters. Still, I like it-for the most part. The worst thing about USB-C is the dock situation for laptops. None of them are perfect, and most of them are garbage. $200-300 is a bit hard to swallow when I've been buying Lenovo docks for $50 f…

Are you using a Lenovo USB-C dock? Are you happy with it?

My work laptop is a Dell and their USB-C dock seems to work just fine (at least for me).

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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USB-C isn't going anywhere, USB 4 still uses that connector.

Ya, but the OP wasn't just complaining about the connector. Rather, he was also commenting on the various standards that use that connector. And FYI, I hear it is to be called "USB4", not "USB 4". Why? Because reasons.

So, are you saying that USB 4 should have purposely used a different connector to avoid confusion? Or are you saying that new devices should just be forced to charge and operate at the same speed as last-generation devices to make things more convenient for users?

Both of those seem like much worse options than the current way of doing things

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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Really? I find it to be a game changer for me. The fact that my laptop, Switch, iPad, and several other devices can all share a charge has made my life much easier. I can just sprinkle a few of them throughout the house and never be without power. Before it was always a hunt to find a cable, or I had to be in [x] room to charge [y] device because that's where the charger lived. Plus, I can charge my MacBook on either…

I could see it being great if all your devices are on it. But when you have usb-c, usb micro, usb mini and usb-b devices, the cables are a total pain. On top of the special pain usb-c brings onto itself. I have a cabinet that is basically dedicated to usb cables, using organizers to keep them all accessible and searchable. That does help a lot. But I feel like having to go that far is a sign usb was not as well thoug…

Well that just means you are not replacing all your devices every 12 months like the manufacturers want....

Re: USB-C was supposed to simplify our lives, but instead it’s a total mess

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The solution, I believe, is rather simple. The standards group should require any cable/device with USB 3 support to include a label on its packaging detailing which capabilities of USB 3 are supported.

Think of the nutrition labels on food packaging, instead showing what the device does and does not support, something like this:

Power Delivery——–30w max

Thunderbolt————No support

Bandwidth————–800Mbps max

Video———————4k / 30 fps

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