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Re: Google TV

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Post by Fuzzwah »

nl wrote: post #301
ehsankia wrote: post #212

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Has logitech ever been been good at updates in general? Why would a peripheral company even be good at home entertainment? I'd agree that Nvidia's connection to home entertainment is just as vague, but they still sound much more reliable to me than Logitech. And as much as people love bringing up Google deprecating stuff, I still trust them far more on updating this than any outside company.

Logitech remotes have a greeat (and well deserved) reputation.

The harmony programming software is terrible. Thankfully you only need to fight with it until you get things set up nicely. The kicker for me is the fact that it asks you every time you use it if you'd recommend it to friends and family. I made it a point to say "no" every time.

Harmony remotes are merely the least bad option.

Re: Google TV

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Post by brirec »

dependsontheq wrote: post #370
cgriswald wrote: post #320

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True. But Apple TV/Apple TV+ are cutting it pretty close.

But I think that is a temporary thing - I don't think Apple TV is going to be long term product - TVs are too smart now

>TVs are too smart now

This is why I’m so reluctant to look into modern TVs. The quality on my mid-range 2014 Sony is pretty average at best by today’s standards, but at least it’s not smart enough to know what I’m watching and has no network connectivity.

This also means I can’t easily control it with a smartphone without something like Logitech Harmony which is just awful in UX, but still… it can’t track what I’m doing on the TV either.

Re: Google TV

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Post by Shared404 »

niwork wrote: post #367
Shared404 wrote: post #305

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Yeah this was really bad. I actually like the way parallax looks, within reason. This was not within reason.

Know of any libraries that will achieve this kind of parallax scrolling-to-reveal rather than just scroll between pages?

No libraries off the top of my head. I know w3[.]css[0] has one example page[1] with a parallax , but I don't know if that's what you're looking for.

LineageOS[2] has a site with a decently readable source code. They also don't have exactly what you are looking for, but the with id="rotate-on-scroll" (The spinning phones) and the related script[3] look like they could somewhat related -- you could probably change the transform in the script to accomplish what you're looking for.

[0] https://www.w3schools.com/w3css/

[1] https://www.w3schools.com/w3css/tryw3css_templates_parallax....

[2] https://lineageos.org/

[3] view-source:https://lineageos.org/ (lines 1247-1263)

Re: Google TV

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Post by Navarr »

baskire wrote: post #348
solarkraft wrote: post #145

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No wonder you're confused, the website is a bit unclear until the end. It's just like a Chromecast (HDMI dongle), but running Android TV. The closest comparable thing may be Nvidia's Shield.

I thought it was running google tv. With Android tv deprecated.

It is running "Google TV," but "Google TV" runs on the "Android TV" operating system variant of "Android"

Re: Google TV

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Post by 542354234235 »

ClikeX wrote: post #342
88840-8855 wrote: post #323

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Look. I am not willing to pay for movies and mainstream shows. Why should like me get such aggregation services that require 4 different subscriptions that add up to 600 Euro per year? I never got these aggregation services - and there are already MANY of them. Here in Germany the Telcos are having setup boxes that are more powerful than this Google TV thing as they aggregate subscriptions AND are able to stream live…

Are you willing to watch movies and shows? But not pay for them?

The success of Netflix proves people are willing to pay. What people are not as willing to do, is constantly pay more and more as studios try to wring more and more profit out of people. When you attempt to overcharge or to make the experience too burdensome, people don’t want to keep paying for it. “I want a reasonably priced service that is convenient” is not the same as “I want everything for free”.

Re: Google TV

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Post by dragonwriter »

adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

> Google introduces Google TV, which might be a rebranding of Android TV back to Google TV

It seems to be not quite exactly that, Android TV seems to still be an active brand; Google TV is a new UI on top of Android TV. OTOH, since it implies Android TV, once all new devices with Android TV are also using the Google TV interface, I'd expect Android TV to stop being an actively-used brand.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/what-goo...

Re: Google TV

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Post by dragonwriter »

shi314 wrote: post #386
nneonneo wrote: post #271

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Heh, that’s cute. And it still seems reasonably close to reality - the only thing I think it’s missing OTOH is Google One. Apple has Books, Pay, Wallet, Store, App Store, One, and TV. All they’re missing is Cast and Go!

Google has Google One but currently it's only Cloud Storage and some PlayStore benefits. In few years, you could expect few more google services in it.

> Google has Google One but currently it's only Cloud Storage and some PlayStore benefits.

And paid support for all Google consumer services.

Re: Google TV

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Post by dragonwriter »

crazygringo wrote: post #76
Navarr wrote: post #69

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Google TV is a launcher for Android TV, so far as I can tell. Android TV is not being rebranded, as it is the OS - but Google TV is the "Google Experience" on Android TV. To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV? Will the Play Movies app on my existing Android TV open the Google TV launcher like shown off…

I swear I've read this comment like five times, because you seem to actually know what's going on... but it's left me only more confused. What is a launcher? If Android TV is an OS, then what is a launcher for an OS? And I guess you're as confused as I am as to also what this has to do with the previous Play Movies and TV app.

> What is a launcher?

“Launcher” is the Android term for a graphical shell, the thing from which you launch apps.

Re: Google TV

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Post by strawberrypuree »

AznHisoka wrote: post #375
ChuckMcM wrote: post #316

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From last year: https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/11/20908128/smart-tv-survei... but my source was a long time Roku employee who eventually quit after the monetization started getting "out of hand" (his words, not mine).

Are they actually selling the data directly to 3rd parties? Or just using it for targeted advertising? The latter is obviously occurring but not sure about the first.

What’s the difference in terms of impact to the users? Even if they are not selling “AznHisoka watched x minutes or y show on this date,” they are using it to influence your behavior through ads.
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