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Re: Google TV

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Post by AnssiH »

I just got an email from Google saying

> The Google Play Movies & TV app on Android mobile devices in the U.S. is now Google TV.

I'm not in U.S., though, so I guess no rebranding for me...

Re: Google TV

#192

Post by partiallypro »

Navarr wrote: post #69
adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

Google TV is a launcher for Android TV, so far as I can tell. Android TV is not being rebranded, as it is the OS - but Google TV is the "Google Experience" on Android TV. To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV? Will the Play Movies app on my existing Android TV open the Google TV launcher like shown off…

Google is somehow worse than Microsoft at naming

Re: Google TV

#193

Post by basch »

umvi wrote: post #77
r-w wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has already been possible for years upon years on Roku.

I don't own a Roku, just a Chromecast

this is Google catching up to Roku, Amazon, and Amazon (and maybe Xbox and Playstation as well.)

Re: Google TV

#194

Post by scrooched_moose »

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #181
scrooched_moose wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mine still "work" but something changed around 2017 and they became so unreliable I don't bother any more. The Chromecast to Device connection is lost after about 10 minutes, making all controls not work. Can't pause, skip, select a new episode, etc. The fix is seemingly random - maybe 50% of the time recasting from the app (Netflix, Hulu, etc) works. 30% of the time mucking around in the Google Home app will work, a…

I had a similar problem, turns out my router was dropping bonjour/upnp packets. I think that was preventing my devices from properly discovering what services were available on my network. I never found a solution for the problem (OpenWRT+WRT3200ACM), but bought a different router and the problem magically went away (OpenWRT+R7800). Could be any number of reasons why you are having issues unfortunately.

Interesting. Thanks for the information. Might be a project for a cold night this winter, or we just are pretty happy with Rokus now.

I'm certain the onset of the problem didn't coincide with a new router, and I've gone through a couple since it started so I assumed that wasn't the issue.

Re: Google TV

#195

Post by AnssiH »

Navarr wrote: post #69
adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

Google TV is a launcher for Android TV, so far as I can tell. Android TV is not being rebranded, as it is the OS - but Google TV is the "Google Experience" on Android TV. To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV? Will the Play Movies app on my existing Android TV open the Google TV launcher like shown off…

> To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV?

The e-mail I got from Google specifically mentioned that Google Play Movies and TV on Android mobile devices was being renamed (and in US only), so maybe it is still Google Play Movies on Android TV? It would still be weird, though, so who knows...

Re: Google TV

#196

Post by cpeterso »

thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #183
DesiLurker wrote: post #121

God bless the google tech lead whose promotion this iteration of google tv would end up supporting. Jokes apart, I am not buying that this time is different . as much as it pains me to say, google needs a little power to the product managers to push through a consistent vision of consumer product side.

To me this is a top down problem. VPs and execs should be putting a stop to this. There needs to be a clear product vision from the top for there to be a clear product vision in the middle and bottom. This is what Steve Jobs was so good at. He could just say, this is dumb we aren't doing this. Google needs an exec team that understands products at the consumer level, not the engineering level and sees products as lon…

Yes! Better to iterate, even dramatically, on a clear product vision and brand than to keep pitching "same but different" products like Google TV, Android TV, and YouTube TV (or Google's various text and video chat apps). Users get confused and fragmented and they won't want to commit to your new products.

Re: Google TV

#197

Post by daveevad »

sneak wrote: post #146
m0zg wrote: post #131

People still watch TV? I haven't turned mine on in years.

I recently bought a half dozen large TVs, and I stream randomized playlist folders of non-television-programming video content to them from a server I keep in the garage. Some just 24/7 display live streams from YouTube of famous places. TVs are cool. Television is garbage.

> live streams from YouTube of famous places

any chance you have a curated list of these you'd be willing to share? thank you

Re: Google TV

#199

Post by oh_sigh »

evanextreme wrote: post #57
samizdis wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ars Article: Google merges Chromecast and Android TV with the “Chromecast with Google TV” https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/09/google-merges-chrome...

right, but that headline doesnt answer the underlying question. This chromecast runs Android TV, so what is Google TV? Is it an interface on top of Android TV, or the successor to Android TV as we know it? It says its coming to future TV's, so what about the Sony TV I just bought? There's so many questions about what this software even is.

It appears that Google TV is a centralized chromecast database. Normally with chromecast if you want to stream HBO, you need the HBO app which supports chromecast. If you want to stream netflix, you need the netflix app which supports chromecast. With Google TV, you link your account into it and then you just go to one app to find all of your streams.
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