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Re: Google TV

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Post by bmurphy1976 » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:34 PM UTC

scrooched_moose wrote: post #120

roneythomas6 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Chromecast from 2013 still works.

Mine still "work" but something changed around 2017 and they became so unreliable I don't bother any more. The Chromecast to Device connection is lost after about 10 minutes, making all controls not work. Can't pause, skip, select a new episode, etc. The fix is seemingly random - maybe 50% of the time recasting from the app (Netflix, Hulu, etc) works. 30% of the time mucking around in the Google Home app will work, a…

I had a similar problem, turns out my router was dropping bonjour/upnp packets. I think that was preventing my devices from properly discovering what services were available on my network. I never found a solution for the problem (OpenWRT+WRT3200ACM), but bought a different router and the problem magically went away (OpenWRT+R7800).

Could be any number of reasons why you are having issues unfortunately.

Re: Google TV

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Post by tanilama » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:34 PM UTC

Boring and unnecessary product. A Google TikTok clone will excite me than Google TV.

TV is dying and few will miss or even notice it.

Re: Google TV

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Post by thrwn_frthr_awy » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:35 PM UTC

DesiLurker wrote: post #121

God bless the google tech lead whose promotion this iteration of google tv would end up supporting. Jokes apart, I am not buying that this time is different . as much as it pains me to say, google needs a little power to the product managers to push through a consistent vision of consumer product side.

To me this is a top down problem. VPs and execs should be putting a stop to this. There needs to be a clear product vision from the top for there to be a clear product vision in the middle and bottom. This is what Steve Jobs was so good at. He could just say, this is dumb we aren't doing this. Google needs an exec team that understands products at the consumer level, not the engineering level and sees products as long living endeavors. The Apple Watch did not do great when it was released, but Apple kept making updates, kept improving it. They committed to the project and the vision and had the confidence to stick with it even if it lost money in its early days.

Re: Google TV

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Post by matheusmoreira » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:36 PM UTC

maxerickson wrote: post #86

You guys take the longevity of a $50 consumer device super serious.

Why shouldn't we? It's a consumer device that happens to have a perfectly good general purpose computer inside it. There's no reason why it shouldn't continue to work until the hardware itself fails.

Re: Google TV

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Post by matheusmoreira » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:41 PM UTC

Yet another service which will most likely be abandoned... Wait, there is a .google top level domain now?

Re: Google TV

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Post by myko » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:43 PM UTC

I prefer this name, glad they brought it back

Re: Google TV

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Post by fphhotchips » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:45 PM UTC

fivre wrote: post #165

adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

i want a YouTube RED original series, where they just have the YouTube RED, YouTube TV, and Google TV product managers engage in a bareknuckle octagon brawl as a metaphor for internal Google PM battles to become the emperor and autocrat of all the googleproductmanagers

Halfway through the season they all change costume and put on deeper voices, but you can tell it's the same character underneath.

3/4 through the season, the producers kill off the most popular character. No reason is given.

Re: Google TV

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Post by basch » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:48 PM UTC

dougmwne wrote: post #74

roneythomas6 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new Android TV interface premieres on the Chromecast with Google TV. It’s coming to third-party set-top boxes and TVs as well, although you’ll have to wait until 2021 before it reaches non-Google hardware. This doesn’t replace Android TV, to be clear — it sits on top. Google is just separating the ‘skin’ for Android TV from its underlying platform. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-tv-android-tv-116260...

So Google TV is a skin that sits on top of Android TV which has a separate skin called Android TV which isn't being used in new products but will continue to be supported in current products. And my Android TV I have right now is an Android TV with Chromecast, but the launch product for Google TV was Chromecast with Google TV, which I can plug into my Android TV when Android TV running Android TV is EOL but Android T…

I suspect that people with older Android TV's who cant upgrade the os or play services, will be able to install the Google TV app to circumvent the lack of updates, similar to Play Services separating from Android.

My phone app (Movies & TV) updated to Google TV automatically.

I'm just kidding myself, theres no way itll work that cleanly.

Re: Google TV

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Post by freediver » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:48 PM UTC

Actually makes sense from the perspective of Google's mission of "organizing world's information", as finding stuff to watch these days reminds of pre-google web.

Problem of course is that in practice Google nowadays is really about "organizing world's ads", so I am sure they will find more than one way to screw this up by insulting the intelligence of people using it.

Re: Google TV

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Post by amiga-workbench » Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 10:48 PM UTC

seabrookmx wrote: post #155

amiga-workbench wrote: post #106

Do we know if this is it for all future Chromecasts? Because the only reason I'm using one is due to the lack of a remote, it lets me treat my TV like the big dumb monitor that it is. If they're going all in on remotes, then I need to move back to DLNA.

I think you can just ignore the interface / remote and still Chromecast to this, not unlike current Android TV implementations (integrated into Smart TV's and the NVidia Shield). Would love if someone with more experience with Android TV could clarify though. I daily a Chromecast Ultra not Android TV.

Ah good, hopefully backdrops can be enabled too. I do enjoy the random selection of artwork.