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Re: Google TV

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Post by chubot »

heavyset_go wrote: post #101
chubot wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought two of them and loved them for a couple years, at least for the content it opened up. However casting was unreliable. I never figured it out but I remember posting on HN about it years ago and other people had the same complaint. Then the YouTube app on my android phone would hang or crash. My Android phone kinda rotted after 4 years or so. I had a dedicated one for chromecast. Now I just use a wireless keyb…

Are you able to do Netflix in HD?

Yes, although the frame rate really sucks. I think that is a separate issue though. (You really notice it on action scenes)

I don't see why there would be any problem with Netflix in HD in the browser on Ubuntu ?

This PC is also from 2012 or so, so I think I should upgrade and maybe the frame rate will improve... I haven't isolated the issue. It's fine for most shows.

But I suspect Netflix encoding quality also sucks, because most people don't care as much as I do, so I haven't debugged it.

Re: Google TV

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Post by andoriyu »

ketralnis wrote: post #32

I owned the Logitech Google TV which I bought for about $300 early in its lifespan. After about a year they shipped some really bad updates to it that made it so slow that it was essentially unuseable and removed several key features, and then never shipped another update to it again. Logitech and Google both lost interest in it and after not long all of the apps like Netflix and even Google's own Youtube stopped wor…

Remember that Android TV and Google TV (the original one) are completely different products.

Reason Shield TV is still doing great is because they didn't cut any corners and future proofed in a way no one expected it from nvidia. It's great. It complely replaced my 6700K + GTX 1080 powered HTPC because streaming games from my PC to shield was easier than using windows from 10 ft away.

I was a little worried that it stops getting updates, but now I just have no reason to upgrade it because it's getting all the updates and performing great. I got the new dongle tho because it cost as much as new remote for shield...

Only weak points of 2015 shield to me: game pad was trash, remote control was large and yet easy to lose and bend.

Re: Google TV

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Post by kochthesecond »

pier25 wrote: post #42
ketralnis wrote: post #32

I owned the Logitech Google TV which I bought for about $300 early in its lifespan. After about a year they shipped some really bad updates to it that made it so slow that it was essentially unuseable and removed several key features, and then never shipped another update to it again. Logitech and Google both lost interest in it and after not long all of the apps like Netflix and even Google's own Youtube stopped wor…

My Nvidia Shield TV from 2015 is still doing great

5 years is really not that long..

Re: Google TV

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Post by aarongolliver »

seabrookmx wrote: post #155
amiga-workbench wrote: post #106

Do we know if this is it for all future Chromecasts? Because the only reason I'm using one is due to the lack of a remote, it lets me treat my TV like the big dumb monitor that it is. If they're going all in on remotes, then I need to move back to DLNA.

I think you can just ignore the interface / remote and still Chromecast to this, not unlike current Android TV implementations (integrated into Smart TV's and the NVidia Shield). Would love if someone with more experience with Android TV could clarify though. I daily a Chromecast Ultra not Android TV.

That's how my LG TV works. The TV shows up in the cast menu just like a chromecast does. Using youtube as an example, it opens up the youtube app and starts the video. You can either use the remote as usual to interact with the video, or the you phone exactly like you would if it were just a chromecast. You can also queue up multiple videos from your phone.

I have a chromecast as well, and I really expected to use it over the built-in apps. But the built-in TV apps really blew me away, much better user interface than I was expecting. I'm hoping this new chromecast/Google TV thingy is as good, I'd really like to disable network connectivity to the TV if possible (but right now the apps are just too nice to give up).

Re: Google TV

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Post by iainmerrick »

thurn wrote: post #61
tracker1 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

likewise... been exceedingly happy with mine... though I'm on my third remote, went with a non-nvidia one this time.

I prefer the remote control app instead, why find a remote when it can just be on your phone, y'know?

Your phone is fine until you want to pause the movie to answer the door, but it takes tens of seconds just to reconnect to the TV dongle.

Re: Google TV

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Post by heavyset_go »

chubot wrote: post #171
heavyset_go wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you able to do Netflix in HD?

Yes, although the frame rate really sucks. I think that is a separate issue though. (You really notice it on action scenes) I don't see why there would be any problem with Netflix in HD in the browser on Ubuntu ? This PC is also from 2012 or so, so I think I should upgrade and maybe the frame rate will improve... I haven't isolated the issue. It's fine for most shows. But I suspect Netflix encoding quality also sucks…

> I don't see why there would be any problem with Netflix in HD in the browser on Ubuntu ?

Because there isn't a browser released on Linux that has the right DRM capabilities to run Netflix's DRM, and thus Netflix on Linux is limited to less-than-HD, hence why I asked if you were able to get it working.

Re: Google TV

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Post by rafaelturk »

I've tried to click in the `live` menu item expecting to watch some live stuff, that actually started really well with a soccer game only to realize that this is not actually live at all.

Re: Google TV

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Post by adrianmonk »

adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

[Replying to myself]

Oops, got the first link wrong on Android TV. Should have been this: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2014/06/android-tv...

Re: Google TV

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Post by lern_too_spel »

ketralnis wrote: post #32

I owned the Logitech Google TV which I bought for about $300 early in its lifespan. After about a year they shipped some really bad updates to it that made it so slow that it was essentially unuseable and removed several key features, and then never shipped another update to it again. Logitech and Google both lost interest in it and after not long all of the apps like Netflix and even Google's own Youtube stopped wor…

As far as I understand, a second generation Apple TV can't even play Youtube videos.
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