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Re: Google TV

#101

Post by heavyset_go »

chubot wrote: post #79
roneythomas6 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Chromecast from 2013 still works.

I bought two of them and loved them for a couple years, at least for the content it opened up. However casting was unreliable. I never figured it out but I remember posting on HN about it years ago and other people had the same complaint. Then the YouTube app on my android phone would hang or crash. My Android phone kinda rotted after 4 years or so. I had a dedicated one for chromecast. Now I just use a wireless keyb…

Are you able to do Netflix in HD?

Re: Google TV

#102

Post by Navarr »

crazygringo wrote: post #76
Navarr wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google TV is a launcher for Android TV, so far as I can tell. Android TV is not being rebranded, as it is the OS - but Google TV is the "Google Experience" on Android TV. To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV? Will the Play Movies app on my existing Android TV open the Google TV launcher like shown off…

I swear I've read this comment like five times, because you seem to actually know what's going on... but it's left me only more confused. What is a launcher? If Android TV is an OS, then what is a launcher for an OS? And I guess you're as confused as I am as to also what this has to do with the previous Play Movies and TV app.

For Android, a launcher is a special type of application that is in charge of launching other applications.

If you search for "popular launchers" you should be able to find some examples

Re: Google TV

#103

Post by Fogest »

botto wrote: post #31
botto wrote: post #18

So the Google TV dongle is $49.99 in the US but why on earth is it £59.99 in the UK??!! Edit: Clarify it's the dongle

To clarify that is at current exchange range: £59.99 = $77.45 $49.99 = £38.72 It's actually twice the price!

Yeah that is odd because in Canada it is $69.99 which is only a few dollars over the current exchange rates conversion.

Re: Google TV

#104

Post by throwaways885 »

crazygringo wrote: post #51
blakesterz wrote: post #4

Who is this website designed for? I'm on Chrome and it took me about a dozen presses of the space bar to get an idea of what Google TV is/does and then a bunch more to get some specifics and a price. I assume it looks different on mobile, maybe better / more useful? Remember the old book/saying "Don't Make Me Think"? (Krug, 2000. Wow, it's 20 years old now?!) This site made me think in ways that seem really unnecessa…

I don't mind scrolljacking when it's compelling. My only problem is I've scrolled through the whole thing and I'm still not clear if Google TV is a website, a piece of hardware, a bundle of content, or what...? It's clearly not just hardware because it says "Chromecast with Google TV". But then it definitely involves an app because it says "Use the app" and "Coming soon to smart TVs." But I still am not exactly clear…

Google TV, as far as I understand it, is a bunch of features across Google services to make TV better.

Like watchlist in Search, the new Google TV app, and the launcher on this Chromecast.

(Disclosure: I work for Google, but I don't work on this)

Re: Google TV

#105

Post by lsaferite »

toby wrote: post #53
stickyricky wrote: post #20

This might be the wrong place to complain about this issue. But "smart" TVs need to be replaced with "dumb TV + set top box" bundles. As it is now, the best panels are obsolete after a year.

I bought my TV from Costco, it has Roku built-in and I think it gets the same software updates. The full integration has some advantages, like having a single remote that stops the playback when I turn the TV off.

But now that Roku has decided they want in on the content business and the ad business you are stuck with them (as am I). I don't want a device that has to make deals with content providers to take a cut TBH. That's why HBO Max is still not on Roku.

Re: Google TV

#106

Post by amiga-workbench »

Do we know if this is it for all future Chromecasts? Because the only reason I'm using one is due to the lack of a remote, it lets me treat my TV like the big dumb monitor that it is.

If they're going all in on remotes, then I need to move back to DLNA.

Re: Google TV

#107

Post by lsaferite »

ed25519FUUU wrote: post #92

Great idea with 1 fatal flaw: it requires my TV to be connected to the internet. NOPE. Besides the fact that many TV manufactures are owned by Chinese government subsidiaries, it's simply not safe to connect a TV to the internet. Who's collecting and selling the data? Why are they taking screen captures and sending them off to who-knows-where? Your TV spies on you[1]. Instead, my TV stays offline and I use an Apple T…

I'm confused. This Chromecast device has it's own internet connection. Your TV can still remain disconnected. Are you replying to something else?

Re: Google TV

#108

Post by edogg »

lapetitejort wrote: post #71
jtsiskin wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can always plug a box into the TV, even if it’s a smart TV. The software can still update. Does the hardware needed to play a video really become obsolete in 1 year? Why, do hardware decoders improve that fast? People aren’t using these panels for games

My smart tv constantly gets in the way. If I boot up a game device it starts with a footer bar with apps and such that won't disappear for up to a minute. I have to press back on the remote if I want it to go away faster. If I accidentally press or long press a button on the remote the whole TV will be hijacked for a voice command or something. A year or so ago the TV decided that if it wasn't getting any inputs it s…

i'm getting the $200 sceptre brand 4k tv from walmart. it is just a display. they still exist

Re: Google TV

#109

Post by [deleted] »

crazygringo wrote: post #76
Navarr wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google TV is a launcher for Android TV, so far as I can tell. Android TV is not being rebranded, as it is the OS - but Google TV is the "Google Experience" on Android TV. To make this more complicated/interesting - Google renamed the Play Movies and TV app to "Google TV." I'm guessing so you can have Google TV on Google TV? Will the Play Movies app on my existing Android TV open the Google TV launcher like shown off…

I swear I've read this comment like five times, because you seem to actually know what's going on... but it's left me only more confused. What is a launcher? If Android TV is an OS, then what is a launcher for an OS? And I guess you're as confused as I am as to also what this has to do with the previous Play Movies and TV app.

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Re: Google TV

#110

Post by GeekyBear »

adrianmonk wrote: post #67

Milestones in Google branding: 2010-05-20: Google introduces Google TV at Google I/O ( https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/announcing-google-tv... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZbArr7vdI ) 2014-06-24: Google introduces Android TV at Google I/O ( https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2020/09/introducin... , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dCUPeyhag ), a rebranding of Google TV 2017-02-28: Google introd…

>Google Play Movies & TV is now Google TV but it’s not the same Google TV that runs on Android TV on the new Chromecast, it’s an app

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/30/21492549/google-tv-app-pl...

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