Is there any brand of wrist sensor that doesn't require you to upload your data to their servers by any chance?
I love the fitbit sensor, but I wish I could opt out of the server side of the things
Google/Fitbit will monetise health data and harm consumers
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#12if a ml algorithm could influence me to work out more, i would accept the consistent nonsense ads about weight watchers
I think the point is more that your insurance will become more expensive because you haven't walked enough between the age of 20 and 40, and therefore you're more prone to a heart attack.
Or maybe your mortgage is more likely to be denied
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#13It's crazy to me that people will run non-free software on something that is designed to capture biometrics... but then again I've been looking for a decent open source alternative and there is nothing out there.
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#14Is there any brand of wrist sensor that doesn't require you to upload your data to their servers by any chance? I love the fitbit sensor, but I wish I could opt out of the server side of the things
Try Apple Watch.
You can disable the iCloud backup of Health data: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/back-up-your-health-d...
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#15What about Amazon and Apple? Why is Google the only recipient with scrutiny? Especially since the merger hasn't happened yet. You should be frightened about all of them.
Apple makes money from people buying their hardware and services. They don’t make a significant amount of money from selling targeted advertisements. Amazon and Google do.
Only because they have margins of more than 20 times the cost of manufacturing, the day they stop having success selling iphones and more at such huge margins is the same day they will use all that data to make money from targeted advertisement, some think that day will never come because they have loyal buyers but only time will tell.
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#16What about Amazon and Apple? Why is Google the only recipient with scrutiny? Especially since the merger hasn't happened yet. You should be frightened about all of them.
Apple doesn't have your health data. They are on device, and any work with the data (statistics) is also done on the device and not somewhere in the Cloud. They don't want your data, it's not their business model. Sure - Health data is backed up over iCloud, but this is encrypted and again Apple doesn't have a way to view the data outside of an Apple device.
>Apple doesn't have a way to view the data outside of an Apple device.
>Apple doesn't have your health data.
I don't believe that any of this is true.
iPhone or no, your data is "out there", and you don't own it.
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#17What about Amazon and Apple? Why is Google the only recipient with scrutiny? Especially since the merger hasn't happened yet. You should be frightened about all of them.
Apple doesn't have your health data. They are on device, and any work with the data (statistics) is also done on the device and not somewhere in the Cloud. They don't want your data, it's not their business model. Sure - Health data is backed up over iCloud, but this is encrypted and again Apple doesn't have a way to view the data outside of an Apple device.
Do you have a source for iCloud backups being end-to-end encrypted?? As far as I know, everything in iCloud is just encrypted (i.e. Apple has the decryption key). In fact, law enforcement often asks for data from iCloud because unlocking the physical phone is harder.
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#18Is there any brand of wrist sensor that doesn't require you to upload your data to their servers by any chance? I love the fitbit sensor, but I wish I could opt out of the server side of the things
There's an SDK that can be used to pull the data from a Garmin to a server you control.
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#19Is there any brand of wrist sensor that doesn't require you to upload your data to their servers by any chance? I love the fitbit sensor, but I wish I could opt out of the server side of the things
pine64. Of course their smart watch currently is a dev kit and doesn't do anything at all unless you write software to do something. Some good progress is being made - expect a first release "soon" where the watch will do something - though probably not something very smart. Still today if you don't want to write all the code yourself you shouldn't bother.
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#20Is there any brand of wrist sensor that doesn't require you to upload your data to their servers by any chance? I love the fitbit sensor, but I wish I could opt out of the server side of the things
There are alternative apps for the Mi Band that work purely on-device.
Mi Band Master is one of them. The setup is a bit more involved with newer bands, but a one-time thing. Works really well.