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OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

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Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#33

Just in case you're like "Why does this look familiar?" https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/frekvens-portable-speaker-black... https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/frekvens-speaker-with-subwoofer... TE designed both this OB4 and the Frekvens, this seems like the Ikea line taken to a very far extreme. Very neat, lots of cash though. I have to say, it kinda reminds me of Ikea's Eneby too, but TE did not design that: https://www.ikea.…

I have the larger Eneby and it puts out a frankly ridiculous quantity of sound without distortion.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#34
exposed drivers on a 'outdoor use' 600 dollar device gives me an extreme sense of anxiety.

Reminds me of Braun products; products designed to look nice, but in general usability suffers in favor of sleek metal human interfaces, nice weights, and a generally 'quality' feel.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#35

their stuff is awesome, but so expensive! I've wanted an OP-1 for a long time, just can't fork out that kind of cash for a "toy"

The OP-1 is kind of a weird thing. I remember a few years ago I was almost convinced that I should have one, except for the price tag which was way over my league. And back then it was still being sold for about $900 in stores I think and now it’s like $1500.

On the bright side though I picked up a decent Korg Triton Le 88 waveform keyboard with weighted hammer action keys a couple of years ago second hand, and for that one I paid $300 which I think was a pretty good price. Online websites seem to indicate that these often sell for $550 to $600 second-hand, or at least that people are listing them asking for that amount.

But the greatest thing for my music making happened a year later when I was able to pick up an Akai MPC X second hand in excellent condition for $1000. The guy that sold it to me had barely even used it. The retail price for those things are $2000, and I love my MPC X to bits.

The MPC X combined with the aforementioned keyboard make for a wonderful time when I work on music.

I have always preferred working with my music without using a computer for it when I play, and with the MPC X you get something that is still very tactile while at the same time also having quite a few of the features of a DAW. My keyboard is connected to the MIDI in and MIDI out of the MPC X, and I play on the keyboard, record MIDI notes, make changes to them and do all kinds of stuff.

Now you may be wondering why I am bringing this up. Like, an 88-keys keyboard and a piece of other hardware sitting on top of it, all on a keyboard stand, it’s not portable so it’s not an apples to apples kind of deal quite.

But the point is that I paid $1300 for this music gear and even though I don’t have the portability that an OP-1 would give you it just gives me so infinitely much personal joy to be making music with.

The OP-1 meanwhile, I think even if you picked it up second hand you’d be unlikely to find it for less than $1000 anytime soon. And I think for me personally, yeah the OP-1 looks neat I suppose, but I am lucky that I could not afford it because this setup that I have instead I think is giving me much much more than the OP-1 ever would for me.

When in the distant future I can afford to buy anything more for my music making, I don’t think I would actually ever buy the OP-1 at this point tbh. Because whereas I used to be intrigued by it and inspired by some of the videos I was seeing and the music people make with it, I think for me the truth is that it would not really help me musically.

Not saying the OP-1 isn’t good or anything. Like I said, some people make cool music with it. Just think that for me I have found a different path to music for myself than what the OP-1 is for. And I feel like with my MPC X and my keyboard I can do all of what I would have been able to do with an OP-1 but not only that but so much more.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#36

I love everything Teenage Engineering make. My first impression is always "eh, that's too weird, who would want that... who is their target market?", and over time end up at "OK, I WANT ONE!". I own way too many of their Pocket Operators now. Though, I REALLY think I'm not their target market here: "designed to be played outdoors, in public spaces and at high volume"... that's exactly situations I now try to avoid. H…

They're kinda making fun of that with the next line:

"designed to be played outdoors, in public spaces and at high volume; carried on one shoulder with speaker elements facing the head. note: it is assumed that passers-by share the same musical taste."

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#37

I love everything Teenage Engineering make. My first impression is always "eh, that's too weird, who would want that... who is their target market?", and over time end up at "OK, I WANT ONE!". I own way too many of their Pocket Operators now. Though, I REALLY think I'm not their target market here: "designed to be played outdoors, in public spaces and at high volume"... that's exactly situations I now try to avoid. H…

I always have the opposite experience! I find the designs attractive but ultimately I find the actual sound effects kinda dull

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#38
post #2

Their line of synths is great, but a radio which doesn't support DAB? How am I going to listen to 6music?

My very basic understanding is that most regular DAB (not DAB+) is inferior in audio quality compared to FM? Also, and I don't know how much it has decided their design decisions, but Teenage Engineering is Swedish based, and here DAB hasn't really become a thing. It's been, more or less, in a "trial" state since 1995, not covering the whole country and steps to upgrade to DAB+ and replacing FM canceled a few years a…

My very basic understanding is that most regular DAB (not DAB+) is inferior in audio quality compared to FM?

Broadcasters can divide the ~1,000 kbit/s into many channels, usually 9-12. It's rare for a single channel to get more than 128 kbit/s, so a strong FM signal might sound better.

Re: OB–4 – Portable high fidelity loudspeaker

#39
Does this kind of marketing actually work for many people? Without trying to sound too unkind, I genuinely hope there are not that many people out there who want to use this thing by "carry(ing) on one shoulder with speaker elements facing the head".

This thing seems like a very expensive toy.

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