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How India Censors the Web

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Re: How India Censors the Web

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I have always suspected that this "whimsical" attitude stems from technical inability on the ISP's end in India. Most ISPs seem to run off the shelf equipment and few people have an adequate understanding of networking beyond the very basics, which leads to such easy-to-circumvent censorship. What terrifies me is that they might just end up learning at some point in the near future.

Please don't give me nightmares now. There is enough totalitarianism going on in this country already.

Get a VPN. It's not a perfect solution, and I sure hope we don't expect everyone to have to use a VPN to be private, but it's good enough - for now.

Re: How India Censors the Web

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I have always suspected that this "whimsical" attitude stems from technical inability on the ISP's end in India. Most ISPs seem to run off the shelf equipment and few people have an adequate understanding of networking beyond the very basics, which leads to such easy-to-circumvent censorship. What terrifies me is that they might just end up learning at some point in the near future.

with SNI based blocked, its almost there. The solution to that will be TLS1.3 ESNI or VPN. (but they can block VPN as well from SNI)

You can bypass SNI-based VPN blocks by getting a cheap DO box and running wireguard on it. They sure as heck can't block all of DO.

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Can anyone shed light on why the author writes the '@' sign on his email as "at-thing" and not "at"?

Maybe e-mail harvesting bots have figured out how to reverse a foo (at) bar (dot) com address, but are thoroughly defeated by (at-thing). For now.

SOTA neural networks can summarise entire articles or books down to a few paragraphs accurately.

Thinking that replacing @ with 'at' or anything else in an email address that a human can infer to be an email address, and assuming that a modern bot can't make the same inference, that's just silly in 2020.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe e-mail harvesting bots have figured out how to reverse a foo (at) bar (dot) com address, but are thoroughly defeated by (at-thing). For now.

SOTA neural networks can summarise entire articles or books down to a few paragraphs accurately. Thinking that replacing @ with 'at' or anything else in an email address that a human can infer to be an email address, and assuming that a modern bot can't make the same inference, that's just silly in 2020.

GP's comment was about the probable capability of currently performed bots, not the SOTA performance of bots that may be deployed in theory.

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I'm one of the authors of the paper in the post, we're trying to extend this work by crowdsourcing censorship measurements from different vantage points in India.

We've compiled these tests into an android app, please consider running it if you live in India and would like to contribute to the research :) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.censorwatc...

It's completely anonymous, doesn't require any permissions, and does not store any user related information.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe e-mail harvesting bots have figured out how to reverse a foo (at) bar (dot) com address, but are thoroughly defeated by (at-thing). For now.

SOTA neural networks can summarise entire articles or books down to a few paragraphs accurately. Thinking that replacing @ with 'at' or anything else in an email address that a human can infer to be an email address, and assuming that a modern bot can't make the same inference, that's just silly in 2020.

Harvest bots are almost certainly along the lines of Perl and Python scripts armed with regexes.

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with SNI based blocked, its almost there. The solution to that will be TLS1.3 ESNI or VPN. (but they can block VPN as well from SNI)

You can bypass SNI-based VPN blocks by getting a cheap DO box and running wireguard on it. They sure as heck can't block all of DO.

One day they will start blocking all traffic from outside which is not "registered" with the. We are close to that happening actually with people accepting Chinese app ban

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I'm one of the authors of the paper in the post, we're trying to extend this work by crowdsourcing censorship measurements from different vantage points in India. We've compiled these tests into an android app, please consider running it if you live in India and would like to contribute to the research :) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.censorwatc... It's completely anonymous, doesn't require any pe…

Do you have any plans of releasing an iOS app anytime soon? I’m going to recommend the Android app to people I know, but it would be good to have something for the iOS users too.
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