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Re: Steve Jobs and the usable computer (2011)

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Here is a question I can't quite answer: why is the complexity of something like Xcode so much greater than NeXT, when many of the basic UI components are pretty much the same kinds of things they were 20 years ago (but, subjectively, better looking)? Is all this extra complexity warranted?

Nope

What makes (parts of) Xcode essentially bloatware or have warrantless extra complexity, to a certain extent, in your view?

Re: Steve Jobs and the usable computer (2011)

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Nope

What makes (parts of) Xcode essentially bloatware or have warrantless extra complexity, to a certain extent, in your view?

i can only speak from memory, but when xcode merged interface builder into the ide (before it was xcode + interface builder) eveyrthing became so slow it was almost intolerable

i wonder if glomming two apps together must have caused some aweful redundancies that slowed up everything?

Re: Steve Jobs and the usable computer (2011)

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I was born in the late 1980s and thus was too young to experience NeXT in its heyday, but sometime in high school was when I learned Mac OS X and its NeXT heritage. I was enamored by a highly usable Unix GUI, and since then I've been a fan of Mac OS X and NeXTSTEP. I even own a non-working NeXTstation Turbo Color that I bought on eBay with the intention of restoring it. However, I was so intrigued with NeXTSTEP as Un…

> I was so intrigued with NeXTSTEP as Unix with a polished GUI

Don't forget, also, about NextSTEP being based on the Mach kernel plus code from BSD Unix.

Re: Steve Jobs and the usable computer (2011)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes (parts of) Xcode essentially bloatware or have warrantless extra complexity, to a certain extent, in your view?

i can only speak from memory, but when xcode merged interface builder into the ide (before it was xcode + interface builder) eveyrthing became so slow it was almost intolerable i wonder if glomming two apps together must have caused some aweful redundancies that slowed up everything?

Awesome thanks, if you can think of anything later, please add!
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