Amazon One – Palm recognition for Amazon Go

Post by radiorental » Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 5:48 PM UTC

ncr100 wrote: post #118

yalogin wrote: post #74

So far what Apple and other companies did is to keep the biometric auth tied to the device and not let leak out. Now Amazon is saying leaking it is the feature. They are using the hand as the identifier, so the biometric id is what is used to identify a person, not an email address, not a random number or a handle. The biometric data that cannot be changed ever is the identifier. It's very troubling. - The privacy an…

> tied to the device and not let leak out there are laws against facial recognition ( https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-becomes-the-first... ) how is palm recognition different from facial, aside from scanner proximity?

Post by therealx » Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 5:56 PM UTC

poisonborz wrote: post #22

Coupling un-alienable, (purposefully) unchangeable biological marks to any account is always horrible idea. And not just the privacy part, for one, it can (only) be unwillingly altered (eg. by an accident), the same way as fingerprints, so a secondary backup code is needed anyway, making the whole setup a bad sort of convenience feature. The proper solution would be a safe hardware key mechanism.

Post by dane-pgp » Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 5:59 PM UTC

culturestate wrote: post #93

dane-pgp wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be able to avoid a central database of biometric data, but who is going to certify the accuracy of these biometric authentication devices? Presumably if a manufacturer made a device that didn't actually bother checking the fingerprint, the systems that integrate with these devices would have to refuse to accept claims from it.

If this were an interoperable standard, I imagine the pool of "approved issuers" would be relatively small, limited to e.g. governments or banks. Bloomberg uses a system not entirely dissimilar to this[1], and I could see Apple and Google building an OS API that the issuers' apps would use specifically for this. 1. https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/101862/what-adv...

Post by Joeri » Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 6:16 PM UTC

silentsea90 wrote: post #107

underyx wrote: post #6

At this point I feel like products are named One when the product manager and marketing people are having a bad day and want to just be done with the naming discussions already.

X and One fall in this category. They sound cool and could be any Amazon product under the sun. The problem though is the next iteration ie X2, X3 etc sound fine but One 2 sounds weird

Post by MisterPea » Tue, Sep 29, 2020, 6:19 PM UTC

elil17 wrote: post #61

My college uses these to control entrance to the dining halls. The technology has been around for years and it works consistently and effectively. They want you to think this is something highly innovative but I’m pretty sure they’re just licensing already existing palm scanners.