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Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by dang »

scott31 wrote: post #104
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #23

I'm assuming this is related: I can't do any development using Visual Studio 2019 at the moment because it calls home to verify the license and it is currently unable to log me in to to verify my license. So VS is basically bricked for me until this gets fixed :-( Screenshot: https://rog.gy/ss/3b14f7a2ac.png

You (or your employer) knowingly chosen a proprietary and hostile development platform and now you are reaping the benefits. I am sorry for you, not for you inability to work, but for your incorrect choices.

Please don't post flamewar comments or cross into personal attack. We're trying for something different here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by benhurmarcel »

simonblack wrote: post #79
koyote wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is awful and why I have always been very sceptical of software moving to the cloud. Just yesterday I had a similar issue with Resharper, where our local licence server was down for the day. Luckily I was able to enable a 30-day trial. (and I guess Resharper isn't that mandatory to get work done)

I have always been very sceptical of software moving to the cloud. Me too. After a disastrous episode with DropBox while travelling in foreign countries nearly a decade ago, I instituted my own File Server that's accessible via the Internet. All of my data is 'safe at home' with daily backups.

> a disastrous episode with DropBox while travelling in foreign countries nearly a decade ago

What was that? They cut your access because you logged from a different IP?

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by raxxorrax »

drevil-v2 wrote: post #93
simonblack wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always been very sceptical of software moving to the cloud. Me too. After a disastrous episode with DropBox while travelling in foreign countries nearly a decade ago, I instituted my own File Server that's accessible via the Internet. All of my data is 'safe at home' with daily backups.

How do you secure it from unwanted access? I have been wanting to do something similar but I am unsure of the best practices

You could take a look at nextcloud. Seems promising, but I have just rudimentary experience. Does what I want though.

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by raxxorrax »

acwan93 wrote: post #64

I just finished convincing old-school management to move to Office365/Azure/Teams after we've been doing everything on-premise, saying we can reduce our maintenance and increase in reliability since we're a small operation. Needless to say this isn't a good look for me.

Always get a shudder if teams is mentioned. I remember the team foundation server abomination.

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by [deleted] »

fendy3002 wrote: post #41
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #23

I'm assuming this is related: I can't do any development using Visual Studio 2019 at the moment because it calls home to verify the license and it is currently unable to log me in to to verify my license. So VS is basically bricked for me until this gets fixed :-( Screenshot: https://rog.gy/ss/3b14f7a2ac.png

Woah that must be suck! Online license validation can backfire like drm did: you cannot use offline feature without online service available.

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Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by orloffm »

andi999 wrote: post #132
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It used to be you bought a key to unlock it permanently, but nowadays it ties your license to your Microsoft account. There’s a link to “unlock with a product key“, but I have no idea how you get one of those. I hate renting software rather than owning it, but also VS2019 is where I’m most productive so I put up with it. This isn’t even the first time this has happened. I do most of my development on my desktop compu…

Whats the difference for you between VS2017 and VS2019?

Also small things around .net core stuff - better UI for project settings, built-in converter for packages.config etc.

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by orloffm »

immigrantsheep wrote: post #40
OkGoDoIt wrote: post #23

I'm assuming this is related: I can't do any development using Visual Studio 2019 at the moment because it calls home to verify the license and it is currently unable to log me in to to verify my license. So VS is basically bricked for me until this gets fixed :-( Screenshot: https://rog.gy/ss/3b14f7a2ac.png

Funnily enough the community/free version works without issues. That really sucks if you're a paying customer.

Community needs to re-update your license every 30 days, so it would also stop working for someone who had that period ending during the outage.

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by DevoidSimo »

OkGoDoIt wrote: post #108
koyote wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is awful and why I have always been very sceptical of software moving to the cloud. Just yesterday I had a similar issue with Resharper, where our local licence server was down for the day. Luckily I was able to enable a 30-day trial. (and I guess Resharper isn't that mandatory to get work done)

It used to be you bought a key to unlock it permanently, but nowadays it ties your license to your Microsoft account. There’s a link to “unlock with a product key“, but I have no idea how you get one of those. I hate renting software rather than owning it, but also VS2019 is where I’m most productive so I put up with it. This isn’t even the first time this has happened. I do most of my development on my desktop compu…

You used to be able to get keys for all windows software through an MSDN account. No idea if that's still the case, would have been around 2017 last time I had one.

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by jaclaz »

mindfulhack wrote: post #141
chillfox wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending upon your needs then perhaps Libre Office, or the WordPerfect Office suite would do?

If I were offering a free (as in price) alternative to MS Office, I'd first recommend WPS Office over LibreOffice, even though it's closed-source. It has a much better interface out of the box. But I'd use something to block it from phoning home to its probably Chinese government-beholden servers, like OpenSnitch for Linux* or LuLu for macOS. (*) https://github.com/gustavo-iniguez-goya/opensnitch

If I may, in my experience Softmaker is not bad at all (still closed source and Commercial, but affordable), LibreOffice simply does not fit, for very light use LibreOffice is fine, but still has - here and there - too many "quirks".

Re: Microsoft 365 Outage

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Post by retox »

orloffm wrote: post #156
andi999 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whats the difference for you between VS2017 and VS2019?

Also small things around .net core stuff - better UI for project settings, built-in converter for packages.config etc.

>small things around .net core stuff

I don't think you can target core 3.0+ at all in VS2017, and only 3.1 is supported now. What that means for security updates I don't know.

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