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SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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Martha Stewart was jailed for avoiding a loss of ~$45k USD.

I think she gets a bad rap. Obviously being wealthy makes her unsympathetic, but that's peanuts. And they 'got' he for 'lying' and not for securities fraud -among the original charges. But the thing is there are much bigger fish to fry --why not go after international investors who have sheel companies within shell companies, etc. But... I mean, I guess this is a career bump or bonus for someone doing investigations.

The SEC does charge those kind too

They're pretty ambitious

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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>let’s not pretend this family didn’t violate the law here either. No actually, let's do pretend this family didn't violate the law here. Let's assume that allegedly means just that. We have this crazy double standard in the US, we want to assume the police are incompetent, but then when they accuse someone we assume they are guilty. How about we assume this is a competent accusation that may or may not be factual, a…

Reading the linked press release answers your question. > The SEC's complaint, filed in federal court in Seattle, charges all three Bohras with violating antifraud provisions of the federal securities laws. All three Bohras have consented to the entry of final judgments permanently enjoining them from further violations of the charged provisions, and ordering them to pay total disgorgement of $1,428,094, total prejud…

This is one of those situations where I read the article but not in its entirety and have to eat my words.

I would have assumed an press release wouldn't use the word alleged unless this was an ongoing case.

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People do really dumb things for relatively small amounts of money. Look up examples of corruption in US city administrators. You’ll see people who throw away their career over $30k.

Martha Stewart was jailed for avoiding a loss of ~$45k USD.

One strange thing about the Martha Stewart incident is that she was a Wall Street stockbroker, from 1967 to 1972. Probably she should have known the rules, but I'm mentioning this because it strikes me as unexpected.

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Amazon probably had to comply with giving up the corporate monitoring data most likely.

the search query would be TLS encrypted. Amazon snoopware wouldn't be able to see it

She worked in finance...I’m sure every single keystroke was logged in addition to any TLS bypasses.

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From the complaint, it was OTM calls and puts, but it seemed like they were trying to decide how much to go in. > 42. Prior to the completion of Bohra’s initial review, her Husband had purchased 500 Amazon shares in put options in his account on January 8. These put options had an expiration date of February 16, 2018, and they represented his expectation that Amazon’s stock price would fall by that date. > 48. During…

> Bohra’s Husband and Bohra’s Father-in-Law had spent more than $850,000 on purchasing Amazon call options and common stock in order to trade > Amazon’s stock price increased 2.87% over the prior day’s closing price. > In total, accounts belonging to Bohra’s Husband, her Father-in-Law, and her 10 Mother-in-Law made a profit of approximately $664,000 Am I stupid? $850,000 * 1.0287 = $874,395, which is $24,395 profit.…

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This is absolutely true but let’s not pretend this family didn’t violate the law here either. Like, there should be a middle ground between “if you’re rich enough, you get away with anything” and “it’s acceptable for a person in finance to share insider information with family members so they can profit.”

>let’s not pretend this family didn’t violate the law here either. No actually, let's do pretend this family didn't violate the law here. Let's assume that allegedly means just that. We have this crazy double standard in the US, we want to assume the police are incompetent, but then when they accuse someone we assume they are guilty. How about we assume this is a competent accusation that may or may not be factual, a…

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For those wondering “really, they had the Amazon earnings ahead of time and only made $1.4M?” this reminded me of a good Matt Levine writeup about a group of folks who obtained massive numbers of earnings reports ahead of time [1]. Having the clear knowledge of the earnings report doesn’t give you perfect knowledge on how to trade it / the reaction! > Their performance is statistically significantly greater than that…

Remember the recent Twitter attack, where malicious actors were able to post from many high-profile & verified accounts? The attackers could've done just about anything. Moved stocks. Start World War 3. And all they did was try a cryptocurrency scam that netted them $couple-thousand.

Teenagers, theyre just dumb (until theyre not)

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Amazon probably had to comply with giving up the corporate monitoring data most likely.

the search query would be TLS encrypted. Amazon snoopware wouldn't be able to see it

The query string is sent in plain-text in the URL parameters.

https://www.google.com/search?q=AMZN

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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>let’s not pretend this family didn’t violate the law here either. No actually, let's do pretend this family didn't violate the law here. Let's assume that allegedly means just that. We have this crazy double standard in the US, we want to assume the police are incompetent, but then when they accuse someone we assume they are guilty. How about we assume this is a competent accusation that may or may not be factual, a…

Or how about the fact that >” All three Bohras have consented to the entry of final judgments permanently enjoining them from further violations of the charged provisions, and ordering them to pay total disgorgement of $1,428,094, total prejudgment interest of $118,406, and total penalties of $1,106,399.” It isn’t alleged. They pled out. There is a parallel charge against the husband by the US Attorney in the Western…

Yeah, saw that after writing the comment. This was a doh moment. The tone of the first half of the article and the second half don't reconcile for me. I thought based on the first part that it was still ongoing. Missed the conviction part.

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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> Bohra’s Husband and Bohra’s Father-in-Law had spent more than $850,000 on purchasing Amazon call options and common stock in order to trade > Amazon’s stock price increased 2.87% over the prior day’s closing price. > In total, accounts belonging to Bohra’s Husband, her Father-in-Law, and her 10 Mother-in-Law made a profit of approximately $664,000 Am I stupid? $850,000 * 1.0287 = $874,395, which is $24,395 profit.…

Options are non-linear and highly leveraged (usually 100:1)

Options are not leveraged 100:1. Rather, the price you see is the per share price. The price you pay is the 100 share price.
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