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SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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As alleged, the family reaped illicit profits of approximately $1.4 million from their unlawful trading in Amazon securities. Did anyone really need insider information to know Amazon stock was going to rise? Although $1.4 million is life changing amount of money, I feel like for these people who were already being generously compensated in Amazon stock, it probably wasn't worth the risk, especially given the quote b…

> Did anyone really need insider information to know Amazon stock was going to rise?

Did you invest? Did everyone you know invest? Did you time it as well as the alleged offender?

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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How did the SEC figure this out? Do they monitor the accounts of all financial employees' relatives?

They can't catch you unless you're a total idiot. Buying a bunch of short dated OTM options that no one else even wants using an account that rarely trades options was probably the dead giveaway.

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As alleged, the family reaped illicit profits of approximately $1.4 million from their unlawful trading in Amazon securities. Did anyone really need insider information to know Amazon stock was going to rise? Although $1.4 million is life changing amount of money, I feel like for these people who were already being generously compensated in Amazon stock, it probably wasn't worth the risk, especially given the quote b…

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Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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1.4M in profits? Doesn't that seem like chump change? Like if you had insider information couldn't you buy options a make much more? Assuming your info was guaranteed to play out predictably. And if it wasn't is it really any better than general speculation?

Ah, the Bohra family was smart, you see. If they only traded out-of-the-money options, and only in “small” amounts, the SEC computers (which have nothing better to do all day...) will never catch on!

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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1.4M in profits? Doesn't that seem like chump change? Like if you had insider information couldn't you buy options a make much more? Assuming your info was guaranteed to play out predictably. And if it wasn't is it really any better than general speculation?

Ah, the Bohra family was smart, you see. If they only traded out-of-the-money options, and only in “small” amounts, the SEC computers (which have nothing better to do all day...) will never catch on!

Very interesting observation. Large number of short term OTM options are flagged when they become in-money.

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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As alleged, the family reaped illicit profits of approximately $1.4 million from their unlawful trading in Amazon securities. Did anyone really need insider information to know Amazon stock was going to rise? Although $1.4 million is life changing amount of money, I feel like for these people who were already being generously compensated in Amazon stock, it probably wasn't worth the risk, especially given the quote b…

If it really is widely known that a stock will definitely rise at some point in the future, that very quickly gets priced into the stock price now. It goes up gradually as confidence that it will go up goes up.

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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How did the SEC figure this out? Do they monitor the accounts of all financial employees' relatives?

The complaint [1] includes quotes from the brokerage and from Amazon. Possibly either Amazon or the brokerage flagged this. [1] https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2020/comp-pr2020-2...

It seemed like they were very public with the brokerage about how the amazon employee controlled his family's brokerage accounts to make amazon trades.

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1.4M in profits? Doesn't that seem like chump change? Like if you had insider information couldn't you buy options a make much more? Assuming your info was guaranteed to play out predictably. And if it wasn't is it really any better than general speculation?

People do really dumb things for relatively small amounts of money. Look up examples of corruption in US city administrators.

You’ll see people who throw away their career over $30k.

Re: SEC charges former Amazon finance manager and family with insider trading

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It is funny that high management is never considered to be doing illegal insider trading (except for obvious missteps), but they're the ones responsible for capital allocation, stock/option grants, and all kinds of decisions that will impact financial results in the next quarter.

And their trades are typically scheduled in advance and public. Their job and fiduciary duty is to maximize shareholder value, and they make decisions so that happens. If that means allocating $ and rewarding people that will attain that goal, then what should be considered illegal?
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