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Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#62
I think that censorship in India is a losing end, and it does not help anyone, not the government, not the ISPs, not the media lobbies.

They should just expose more endpoints, like the way TPB got over the problem, and keep these ISPs at bay. This is just my opinion.

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#63
I'm one of the authors of the post, we're trying to extend this work by crowdsourcing censorship measurements from different vantage points in India.

We've compiled these tests into an android app, please consider running it if you live in India and would like to contribute to the research :) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.censorwatc...

It's completely anonymous, doesn't require any permissions, and does not store any user related information.

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#65

I remember visiting India as a kid with my family, and one of my cousins telling me about an America TV series that was banned. I didn't think much of it at the time, but as I've grown older, I've really come to appreciate the freedom of speech we have in America. I just wrote a post about it: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/why-i-no-longer-hate-amer... India is literally the largest democratic country by populati…

Be careful what you wish for... while I've always been a huge fan of the First Amendment, the consequences of completely unrestrained speech have never been clearer, with quite significant numbers of people believing that Bill Gates engineered Covid-19 to implant computer chips in your brain through vaccines, and other stuff which would be hilarious if it weren't so destructive.

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#66
post #10

It isn’t clear from the article, but how do we circumvent this? Would a VPN work?

TLS1.3 + ESNI is a robust solution, Firefox has the option of enabling it.

Cloudflare has a great page which allows to check this https://www.cloudflare.com/en-gb/ssl/encrypted-sni/

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What good is all of this semblance of free speech when the communication and print platforms of our age that enable the transmission of vast portions of our speech essentially dictate what they will carry and what they wont. Unless you publish a physical book of course and then promote it and distribute it yourself or on a much smaller scale, you post pamphlets on utility poles or other such low tech-low reach media,…

>I don't know what you're getting at ( in this post ; I havent read your blog post yet ) America currently is one of the most restrictive places on earth to express your thoughts and then hope to have them transmitted fairly to a wide swath of people, both geographically and ideologically. I'm in America, and I can access plenty of racist, sexist, government propaganda, anti government propaganda, anti religion, pro…

That’s just Noise, not communication. Try making a reasoned and articulated argument for something controversial (and in a polarized society like the US one, mostly anything is) and see how long it takes for takedowns and shadowbans to reduce your reach down to nothing.

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#68
post #27

I remember visiting India as a kid with my family, and one of my cousins telling me about an America TV series that was banned. I didn't think much of it at the time, but as I've grown older, I've really come to appreciate the freedom of speech we have in America. I just wrote a post about it: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/why-i-no-longer-hate-amer... India is literally the largest democratic country by populati…

https://rsf.org/en/ranking It seems you are not that right.

In that ranking India is only 0.01 points ahead of pakistan. Does not pass my smell test about its methodology to be honest.

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#69
post #55

For anyone in India, just use a DoH client and you would be good to go. I use greentunnel and it works fine.

DoH just by itself won't help unfortunately, since it just fetches the DNS (btw, only Airtel, ACT, BSNL, and MTNL bother with DNS censorship).

ISPs have been looking at the cleartext hostname in the TLS handshake to block these connections

As someone correctly pointed out, greentunnel does much more than DoH.

Re: Investigating TLS Blocking in India

#70

I remember visiting India as a kid with my family, and one of my cousins telling me about an America TV series that was banned. I didn't think much of it at the time, but as I've grown older, I've really come to appreciate the freedom of speech we have in America. I just wrote a post about it: https://battlepenguin.com/politics/why-i-no-longer-hate-amer... India is literally the largest democratic country by populati…

Free speech is not about releasing every movie or TV show produced by entitled people. It's about free speech of common people. A person getting fired for a thing he/she commented a decade ago is not free speech. USA has lot to do with free speech which really matters.

USA was top country regarding free speech in maybe 1980s but now, it needs to change it's policies to be one.

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