Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

Post by MereInterest » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:25 AM UTC

marsrover wrote: post #17

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No, it would have made targeted advertising on the internet be very hard to develop. The internet existed before targeted advertising, with site-specific advertising based on the interests of a site. Stalking users across sites for the purpose of targeted advertising is a much newer development. I agree that this doesn't align with the US's general approach to this sort of thing. That is a fault with the US's general…

Targeted advertising is a major reason for the Internet’s success. It has allowed many companies to become extremely wealthy and invest back into the ecosystem.

Post by soared » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:25 AM UTC

zmmmmm wrote: post #51

localhost wrote: post #20

Unlike some other commenters below, I don't believe that this is a privacy issue. Instead, I believe that it is a national security issue because TikTok is controllable by the CCP which is ideologically opposed to the United States. The next global conflict will likely be one between the east and the west, with control of information being advantageous to both sides in the conflict. China already blocks the western I…

> Instead, I believe that it is a national security issue Are you uncomfortable adopting that belief with literally no concrete evidence that anything of the sort is actually occurring? I don't know how you reconcile rule of law with such drastic interventions in the rights of companies without evidence of wrongdoing. If anything you can come up with in your most paranoid fantasies can be the basis of shutting down a…

Post by Foober223 » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:27 AM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #19

tatrajim wrote: post #9

Nice to know that Apple was given equal legal consideration in China in 2016 when its iBooks store and iTunes movie store were suddenly ordered shut after six months of operation. Oh, wait. . . they weren't given any legal recourse at all and the Obama administration did nothing about it while Silicon Valley grandees kept conspicuously silent. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/technology/apple-no-longe...

Are you… upset that the US is doing, in your mind, the right thing? Like if you just want to vent about the Chinese government then rock on but I kinda doubt you want the US government to start taking pages out of the CCP’s playbook.

Post by soared » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:27 AM UTC

dirtyid wrote: post #57

Politics aside, it's crazy Facebook / Instagram / Youtube haven't successfully cloned TikTok yet. No doubt network affect plays a role, but from what I've read, western clones have been very lacking. Maybe US is just not competitive when it comes to quickly copying and iterating designs like China is. It's a skill. Google Meet apart from great transcription feature still feels miles behind Zoom. Wonder how Indian dev…

Post by dvtrn » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 1:27 AM UTC

soared wrote: post #63

zmmmmm wrote: post #51

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> Instead, I believe that it is a national security issue Are you uncomfortable adopting that belief with literally no concrete evidence that anything of the sort is actually occurring? I don't know how you reconcile rule of law with such drastic interventions in the rights of companies without evidence of wrongdoing. If anything you can come up with in your most paranoid fantasies can be the basis of shutting down a…

Devils advocate - there is no evidence that it isn’t already occurring in subtle ways. Russia’s strategy is sowing discord, which would be fairly easy if one government controls the algorithm deciding what media the other country’s citizens sees.