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Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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Rather than blocking a single app, they should bring in GDPR style laws that make apps like tiktok banned by default unless they change to be strongly privacy protecting.

that'd probably kill every American social media app on the app stores as well, not sure they're ready to do that.

Has GDPR killed social media in europe?

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Nice to know that Apple was given equal legal consideration in China in 2016 when its iBooks store and iTunes movie store were suddenly ordered shut after six months of operation. Oh, wait. . . they weren't given any legal recourse at all and the Obama administration did nothing about it while Silicon Valley grandees kept conspicuously silent. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/technology/apple-no-longe...

So the correct course of action, in your opinion, is to move towards a China-style legal system? If not, then what's your point?

It sounds like OP is arguing for reciprocity. Why should we give due process to Chinese companies if American companies are not given due process in China? Chinese companies are taking advantage of our tolerance and fairness. We should be intolerant of intolerance.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it would have made targeted advertising on the internet be very hard to develop. The internet existed before targeted advertising, with site-specific advertising based on the interests of a site. Stalking users across sites for the purpose of targeted advertising is a much newer development. I agree that this doesn't align with the US's general approach to this sort of thing. That is a fault with the US's general…

Targeted advertising is a major reason for the Internet’s success. It has allowed many companies to become extremely wealthy and invest back into the ecosystem.

To create more targeted advertising companies. Huzzah!

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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I get the feeling the Trump Administration’s lawyers are going to fumble the full ban lawsuit in November allowing Bytedance to retain control of TikTok. If this were an actual national security issue then you’d think they’d come up with more compelling reasons to remove it from the App Store.

There's a valid concern but the administration's approach is heavy-handed and impractical. They seem intent on simply stealing a successful company from China and letting american companies earn the rewards and maybe get a kickback in the process. They should use either their national security powers or, better yet, an act of Congress to ban the specific objectionable activities and let the markets sort themselves out.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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post #3

Rather than blocking a single app, they should bring in GDPR style laws that make apps like tiktok banned by default unless they change to be strongly privacy protecting.

that'd probably kill every American social media app on the app stores as well, not sure they're ready to do that.

And therein lies the true motivation for blocking TikTok. This has nothing to do with privacy and everything to do with politics.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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Nice to know that Apple was given equal legal consideration in China in 2016 when its iBooks store and iTunes movie store were suddenly ordered shut after six months of operation. Oh, wait. . . they weren't given any legal recourse at all and the Obama administration did nothing about it while Silicon Valley grandees kept conspicuously silent. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/technology/apple-no-longe...

China is laughing at us while their shills feign ignorance.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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Something revealed in the recent court filings was how Bytedance spent over $1 billion in advertising on Facebook/Instagram, YouTube, and Snapchat.

Apparently they were spending $10-$30 to acquire an active user and expecting to generate $5 of revenue per user in the US, implying a revenue payback period of 2-6 years.

Some ugly unit economics.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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I get the feeling the Trump Administration’s lawyers are going to fumble the full ban lawsuit in November allowing Bytedance to retain control of TikTok. If this were an actual national security issue then you’d think they’d come up with more compelling reasons to remove it from the App Store.

There's a valid concern but the administration's approach is heavy-handed and impractical. They seem intent on simply stealing a successful company from China and letting american companies earn the rewards and maybe get a kickback in the process. They should use either their national security powers or, better yet, an act of Congress to ban the specific objectionable activities and let the markets sort themselves ou…

> stealing a successful company from China

Only its US operations.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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It’s an interesting argument that probably won’t end well for bytedance and other foreign controlled apps and software... if executive branch can’t control which of them are allowed to be present in country and distributed by us entities, it’ll be just a matter of time before a law is passed that would let them, or probably an existing one amended (similar to patriot act). I bet it would be bipartisan law as well.

Re: Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

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Unlike some other commenters below, I don't believe that this is a privacy issue. Instead, I believe that it is a national security issue because TikTok is controllable by the CCP which is ideologically opposed to the United States. The next global conflict will likely be one between the east and the west, with control of information being advantageous to both sides in the conflict. China already blocks the western I…

What exactly is the national security risk with TikTok?
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