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Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by Kranar »

nrmitchi wrote: post #208
rvz wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And yet, that rule is stupid. Doesn't matter. They can still do it to anyone anyway. > But your logic instagram could just give @kyliejenner to some random person, and you think she would have no recourse? Well yes. They (Facebook) own the platform, it's a privately owned company and they can do whatever they like either via the ToS or in general. You don't own your account handle. They reserve the right to termina…

> Well yes. Strong disagree. If Facebook tried this against anyone with a moderate following there would be a Tortious interference and/or fraud lawsuit filed _immediately_. When Trump's twitter account was deleted by a rogue employee for all of 10 minutes, Twitter most definitely did not just sit back and say "We reserve the right to terminate your account at any time". > it's a privately owned company I know this i…

>I know this is going to sound pedantic, but this is wrong. Facebook is a publicly-owned company.

No the original statement was correct, your statement is wrong. If you want to really be pedantic then Facebook is a public company that is privately owned.

A publicly owned company [0] is one that is owned by a government. A public company [1] is one whose shares are traded on a public stock exchange.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_ownership

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_company

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by Kranar »

sagichmal wrote: post #238
megous wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't have any influence. And that rules don't apply (or at least apply just selectively) to powerful people is no surprise either.

What is the purpose of this comment? It has the appearance of being a defense of an unjust status quo. Is that your intent? Or do you think a "reminder" of the existence and consequences of unjust power structures serves some other, useful purpose? It doesn't, but I'm interested to know your rationale.

The purpose of the comment seems fairly straightforward and highlights exactly what was originally claimed, that the section of the ToS that claims Instagram can close any account for any reason is only true for people who have no influence or notoriety. It is not true of public and/or influential figures who could have a strong claim against Instagram for arbitrarily deciding to close their account.

That one set of rules apply to people in power and another set of rules apply to the general population is certainly something to take into account.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by apostacy »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #226
renewiltord wrote: post #120

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Users here will believe any conspiracy theory so that's not really a high bar. I'm serious. There was that massive 2000 comment thread the other month about some big company doing something evil and then it turned out they didn't do it. Everyone who was right and informed in the original thread was greyed out by users here.

It's not conspiracy theories, it's any story about a big company doing something bad or evil. Or any story that confirms the worldview of the most active HN commenters. Any story about Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Google, Uber, or PayPal doing anything negative tends to bring out the most cynical commenters. HN is usually a skeptical crowd, right until a story arrives that fits their worldview. The false story about…

> It's not conspiracy theories, it's any story about a big company doing something bad or evil. Or any story that confirms the worldview of the most active HN commenters.

> Any story about Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Google, Uber, or PayPal doing anything negative tends to bring out the most cynical commenters. HN is usually a skeptical crowd, right until a story arrives that fits their worldview.

It's these companies that are cynical, not my worldview!

Nearly every single allegation about these companies doing something sneaky, evil, greedy, and underhanded has turned out be completely true.

When Uber was doing grey-balling, it turned out to be true. When Uber had made a secret agreement with Apple to have their app take screenshots in the background, that was true. Just off of the top of my head I can think of so many preposterous sounding incidents that turned out to be 100% true.

I would assert that people were completely correct to just assume that Apple was doing something shady with the app store. I think it is kind of naive to give Apple the benefit of the doubt at this point.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by daveFNbuck »

toyg wrote: post #192
daveFNbuck wrote: post #164

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That's not necessarily evidence of rogue employees being able to steal accounts for their friends. That may just mean that they had a friend at Instagram that helped them trigger the official process to delete an inactive account and give the name to someone who plans to use it.

In practice, it's the same thing: you have no way to know that this is not what happened to @danny, the consequences are the same.

It's unlikely that this is what happened to @danny, unless their account was inactive.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by notdang »

polynomial wrote: post #133

It appears to have reverted back to the originally Danny? (6 posts, not 100, 5,563 followers, 6 posts, set to private) https://www.instagram.com/danny/

apparently he did not lost his images. the original account was swapped with this one: https://www.instagram.com/danny.miracle.done3/

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by kaesar14 »

lightgreen wrote: post #101
kaesar14 wrote: post #4

Shocking behavior from the most immoral company on the Internet. What can be done about this?

> Shocking If you are so easier to shock, you will probably die from a heart attack at 30. But seriously, it is an action of one bad employee at worst, this story (if it is even true) can happen in any company. Facebook gets spotlighted simply because it is large.

/s needed perhaps.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by EmilioMartinez »

Kapura wrote: post #16

I think this is indicative of the biggest problem we have had with social media: there is no legalism here, just "codes of conduct" that companies and users both willfully ignore. If your handle gets sold by some facebook employee to a rich kid in LA, what recourse do you have? I don't know what laws this would break (maybe some broad definition of fraud? I Am Not A Lawyer) so it's not like this person has a slam dun…

And yet, you might find yourself being held legally accountable for what's posted

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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Post by crb002 »

Kapura wrote: post #16

I think this is indicative of the biggest problem we have had with social media: there is no legalism here, just "codes of conduct" that companies and users both willfully ignore. If your handle gets sold by some facebook employee to a rich kid in LA, what recourse do you have? I don't know what laws this would break (maybe some broad definition of fraud? I Am Not A Lawyer) so it's not like this person has a slam dun…

In Cali you can go to the police. https://www.stimmel-law.com/en/articles/californias-computer...
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