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Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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post #11

Is this hearsay or is there proof? Aside from @danny saying it was from an fb employee, there’s nothing else to indicate it was, and I wouldn’t trust the word of a hacker/recipient of a hacked account.

Even if the fb employee bit is untrue (I'm also skeptical), it indicates that someone can take over your account like this with no recourse.

Well, no one is taking over my instagram account because I don’t have one, but it does indicate some people are taking over accounts with no recourse.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#142

The arbitrariness with which these companies rule over our digital lives infuriates me more from month to month. We do our best to fight dictators in the physical world but somehow accept them in the digital realm.

While they do have power over users on their platform, they're voluntary applications that people choose to give control to for convenience and publicity. Unlike credit bureaus who actually ruin peoples' lives with their carelessness and you can't even opt out, social media apps are purely opt-in, and you don't get your wages garnished or bank accounts emptied or lose your ability to drive because of them. And while…

I’m with you to a degree, but if most anyone’s email account vanished, or worse was stolen, I’d be pretty confident guessing that they’re screwed.

For more typical social media, losing a decade of pictures is pretty harmful. It’s not about the value of the @danny handle, it’s also about the account being gone. And the privacy issues if the new person got all the DMs and private info.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

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post #29
post #11

Is this hearsay or is there proof? Aside from @danny saying it was from an fb employee, there’s nothing else to indicate it was, and I wouldn’t trust the word of a hacker/recipient of a hacked account.

Well what he should conclude if support doesn't work at all.

Instagram has poor customer support.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#144
post #8

It's sad and upsetting, but when will people learn that Facebook, Google et al do not care at all about individual users? Their model simply does not factor in the worries of a single user. (Worse is how they want to propagate the idea that software should be free and of highest quality, thus preventing any communal attempts at creating different models.) I advice everyone who has an account to at least download thei…

I’ve read somewhere that Facebook even embeds tracking pixels in the HTML of the data export, so keep this in mind if you ever actually look at the exported data.

They don't for standard picture but they do embbed their own metadata

https://iptc.org/news/what-does-facebook-do-with-your-photo-...

https://www.carlseibert.com/facebooks-hidden-metadata-codes/

You may be thinking of PhotoDNA which is used for different purposes

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#145
post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not an extremely well known phenomenon at all. Asserting things while being overly emotional and aggressive isn't evidence. So: Citation needed.

So are you asking for screenshots from my email of the thread where everyone came together to agree on the terms and execution of the conspiracy, or? Also, sarcasm isn’t an emotion. I’m English, so perhaps consider that my culture of challenging someone is different from yours before projecting whatever big bad horrible emotional troll hurt your feelings once. Facebook is literally more employees than even populate t…

In your estimation, what percentage of Facebook employees know about such extremely well known schemes?

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#146
post #41

HN is becoming a tool to report such crap. can we stop that pls. I know it may help some but get back their account but it ultimately does not solve the problem and it unfair as most people will not know how to make the necessary drama. + its annoying non-content post we get here every other week.

it unfair as most people will not know how to make the necessary drama

The solution to a deep problem is not to kick down the ladder a few people have found to climb out of it.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#147
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speak for yourself. You might accept them, but I do not. Not being on Facebook has its problem in a society that is mostly on it, but it is possible.

It is a nuisance to the people around you. If they're organizing something and make a FB/VK event for it, someone will have to bother themselves with relaying you all the updates via your preferred communication channels. We need working federated social media asap.

Talking to your friends specifically and directly is a nuisance?

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An interesting aspect to this story is that although there's no real evidence that a Facebook employee was involved, it still seems like a believable explanation to many readers including many commenters here. If a company's customer support is so bad that no one can tell the difference between being hacked and being abused by a rogue employee, does it actually matter what happened? I guess that it matters to the ori…

Users here will believe any conspiracy theory so that's not really a high bar. I'm serious. There was that massive 2000 comment thread the other month about some big company doing something evil and then it turned out they didn't do it. Everyone who was right and informed in the original thread was greyed out by users here.

> There was that massive 2000 comment thread the other month about some big company doing something evil and then it turned out they didn't do it.

Can you link to this? Not trying to be meta, I just don't believe random claims on the internet without any evidence.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#149
post #16

I think this is indicative of the biggest problem we have had with social media: there is no legalism here, just "codes of conduct" that companies and users both willfully ignore. If your handle gets sold by some facebook employee to a rich kid in LA, what recourse do you have? I don't know what laws this would break (maybe some broad definition of fraud? I Am Not A Lawyer) so it's not like this person has a slam dun…

I think this goes a bit broader than just social media. It really has to do with the concept of ownership of words/handles/subdomains on third-party systems.

Who owns a twitter handle? Who owns an Instagram account handle? Do people with trademarks have a right to their trademark on a third-party system?

I work at AWS. Some of our services allow you to customize subdomains (AWS SSO, as an example). There have been customers (typically large enterprises) that assert they should have rights to a specific subdomain within AWS. These subdomains typically relate to their business name or various trademarks.

Should these customers have rights to these names? If I'm a small business (or perhaps an individual) and reserve companyxyz.amazonapps.com, should a company have recourse to take that away from me?

It's a question that hasn't really been collectively answered within the digital space. And until this question is answered, there are going to continue to be issues.

Re: Someone has stolen my Instagram account

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An interesting aspect to this story is that although there's no real evidence that a Facebook employee was involved, it still seems like a believable explanation to many readers including many commenters here. If a company's customer support is so bad that no one can tell the difference between being hacked and being abused by a rogue employee, does it actually matter what happened? I guess that it matters to the ori…

Users here will believe any conspiracy theory so that's not really a high bar. I'm serious. There was that massive 2000 comment thread the other month about some big company doing something evil and then it turned out they didn't do it. Everyone who was right and informed in the original thread was greyed out by users here.

For anyone who missed it, here’s the original thread that made the false claim on Twitter that Apple keeps it 30% cut when a customer requests a refund: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23987584

Here’s the follow up retraction: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23995750

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