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American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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Ridiculous to you.. not so ridiculous to me. Lies can affect peoples lives & livelihood in catastrophic ways. He tried to harm some people and they asked for the protection of the law. To me there's nothing ridiculous there.

Perhaps he was warning people about an actually bad place?

You apparently have not read enough about the case and make assumptions that are irrelevant

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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Most people here are not familiar with laws in Thailand and should not assume that every country has exactly same laws. I’m not taking a side here on purpose, because certain laws would apply to me then. a) yahoo article is biased and incomplete. Don’t take it as the truth. b) if a official report (complaint) was filed at police station then the person who complaint was about must appear at that station so they can m…

> the person who complaint was about must appear at that station so they can make their own statement into same journal.

I’m sure you can imagine this being rather difficult for a tourist who is back home on the other side of the planet.

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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> It's turning out to be terrific free publicity for this island resort ... Let me guess. They've had all of the negative reviews deleted, by threatening to put more people in jail? That's one way to do it...

Are you implying that the resort is suing every customer who gives negative reviews? And if so where is the proof. If not, then it’s just a silly statement made up by you.

Are you kidding?

They took a customer to court after that person had a bad experience and went around telling others about it.

Were the contents of the guys reviews all peaches and cream? Heck no. He comes off as a prick (my opinion).

But this place, clearly has form in making threats and getting the Thai legal system involved against negative reviewers.

How are we to know the resort isn't just making crap up and "abusing the system" to remove negative reviews?

That could as easily be the case, and seems more likely.

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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There is more to this case. And I’m just summarizing from the statement published by the resort: - customer argued about corkage fee for beverages brought from outside. - customer left and drank beverages outside without needing to pay corkage - customer made inappropriate and defamatory comments on online platforms. - Some of the comments were taken down by the platforms as they clearly violated terms - resort management tried to contact him to resolve the matter See more:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VZCwyULmkLpZ7y5nT5wsaX0mn8w...

From my own experience with complaints and the legal system a) lots of people write realistic, truthful and harsh negative reviews but don’t get sued for defamation b) one doesn’t just get dragged to court c) no matter if direct contact was attempted, if a filing is made at police station, the police call the defendant and he has to appear to get the charges read and to make a statement. d) there are usually several negotiations at police station to settle matters without having to go to court or even starting a civil or criminal proceeding e) if no agreement is reached then it becomes a real case. Also there is arbitration in civil cases f) general legal experience, not related to the case: foreigners not obeying local laws and regulations does result in a rude awakening. This is the case in any country. g) western countries specially USA have very strict local police and court rules. Try to miss a court appointment there and compare. h) technically the defendant may be charged with not just defamation but also with violating cybercrime laws (more serious) i) Not sure why this clickbait populist article is given so much attention. It’s badly researched, badly written. Classic “blogger - wannabe journalist” piece. A new low for Yahoo News.

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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post #13

Most people here are not familiar with laws in Thailand and should not assume that every country has exactly same laws. I’m not taking a side here on purpose, because certain laws would apply to me then. a) yahoo article is biased and incomplete. Don’t take it as the truth. b) if a official report (complaint) was filed at police station then the person who complaint was about must appear at that station so they can m…

> the person who complaint was about must appear at that station so they can make their own statement into same journal. I’m sure you can imagine this being rather difficult for a tourist who is back home on the other side of the planet.

What are you talking about? Your statement has no connection to reality: - foreign tourists can currently not enter the country. - the defendant is NOT a tourist but works in the country. - the police station is not on other side of the planet but just 3h away from his place of work. - I’m not local but in most countries I have lived the local law matters, applies and has to be observed. Nothing difficult about that

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you implying that the resort is suing every customer who gives negative reviews? And if so where is the proof. If not, then it’s just a silly statement made up by you.

Are you kidding? They took a customer to court after that person had a bad experience and went around telling others about it. Were the contents of the guys reviews all peaches and cream? Heck no. He comes off as a prick (my opinion). But this place, clearly has form in making threats and getting the Thai legal system involved against negative reviewers. How are we to know the resort isn't just making crap up and "ab…

Your assumptions are just assumptions = not backed by facts.

In reality he could be Elvis born again and also to him laws would still apply.

If the resort would have made up the comments they say he posted, then they would be in much more legal trouble than he is now.

From statements that were posted as screenshots he might be also technically liable for violations of cybercrime act. But that hasn’t been announced or he hasn’t been charged yet for that.

From where I’m standing, the guy looks like someone who went overboard to not just complain but incriminate himself. That’s what counts.

Honestly, every business has customers that complain. You can’t please everyone. But if someone were to make certain statements about my business, employees etc, I would also use my legal rights to fight abuse.

I have myself complained for decades very harshly about other business on social media, their own TW/FB/Google profiles and haven’t been sued by anyone.

It would be interesting what the guy can state as his side of the story apart of the incriminating screenshots from online platforms.

Edit: typo

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you implying that the resort is suing every customer who gives negative reviews? And if so where is the proof. If not, then it’s just a silly statement made up by you.

Are you kidding? They took a customer to court after that person had a bad experience and went around telling others about it. Were the contents of the guys reviews all peaches and cream? Heck no. He comes off as a prick (my opinion). But this place, clearly has form in making threats and getting the Thai legal system involved against negative reviewers. How are we to know the resort isn't just making crap up and "ab…

Are you for real? Refusing to pay a corkage fee is “bad experience”? His comments are below the belt and inappropriate.

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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What a ridiculous situation. The guy was arrested and brought to the minuscole island because of a defamation suit. Imagine that. The article is quite light on details, so here’s another one that also links to the full response by the hotel owners: https://mothership.sg/2020/09/sea-view-resort-defamation-law...

Not ridiculous at all. Size of island doesn’t matter. The court is on mainland. Police station where resort filed complaint is where the guy has to go to hear the charges and to make his own statement. All ok so far.

The ridiculous part is your comment about the proceeding and size of island. The charges for violations of laws don’t get smaller the smaller the island is.

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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There is more to this case. And I’m just summarizing from the statement published by the resort: - customer argued about corkage fee for beverages brought from outside. - customer left and drank beverages outside without needing to pay corkage - customer made inappropriate and defamatory comments on online platforms. - Some of the comments were taken down by the platforms as they clearly violated terms - resort manag…

No matter if there is more, how is being arrested by the police and risking 2 years in prison appropriate for libel in a review?

I think it is good warning people not to be tourists in countries with draconian laws.

Re: American sued in Thailand over negative Tripadvisor review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the person who complaint was about must appear at that station so they can make their own statement into same journal. I’m sure you can imagine this being rather difficult for a tourist who is back home on the other side of the planet.

What are you talking about? Your statement has no connection to reality: - foreign tourists can currently not enter the country. - the defendant is NOT a tourist but works in the country. - the police station is not on other side of the planet but just 3h away from his place of work. - I’m not local but in most countries I have lived the local law matters, applies and has to be observed. Nothing difficult about that

I’m not sure who you’re astroturfing for but nowhere did I talk about following Thai laws. I didn’t even actually specify my comment was about this person. Did the law change when the borders closed? Is there something that prevents this ridiculous chain of events unfolding for someone who is not in the country?

If I post an unfavorable review about a Thai business from across the world, can they just summon me to a Thai court?

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