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Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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If I have any social networking anxiety, it's not about friend count. It's anxiety over wasting my life catering to wannabe web personalities trying to build a following via attention-whoring or wasting precious moments of my life scrolling through every mundane update every idiot on my list posts when their new baby farts (or, worse, the ultra sound images and the nine months of constant uninteresting updates that f…

I mean this in the kindest possible way -- but you're a snob. :-)

I was resistant to facebook at first, but I've found it a great way to keep in touch. Yes, sometimes people over-share, and sometimes there is a temptation to over-share yourself. But if you're an adult, it's easy to recognize that and make allowances for that in other people. It's part of the human social fabric.

And it's quite useful to be able to post vacation photos (as one example), or blast out an update and have group comments -- it seems less isolating, and frankly less annoying, than group email updates when your friends are geographically separated.

Do people "collect" friends? Yes... that can happen. But like anything else, you can use it like an adult, and play to it's advantages, rather than it's disadvantages.

To some geeks, uninitiated social contact that doesn't make their own special needs primary is an annoyance. But -- trust me, the resulting anger and isolation isn't really worth the curmudgeon act. You are not that busy, you're are probably not solving world hunger, etc... lay off the snobbery.

Now Twitter on the other hand, is a little different. Its nature is to be more of a public platform. Something public personalities use -- and in that case, the character limit makes something that should be deeper, much too shallow. I use it as a headline news ticker ('cause the existing RSS tickers are less capable than twitter clients), but don't bother following individuals.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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It could very well be that the relationship between NFC and certain forms of social interaction in general is very strong and Facebook is simply a reflection of that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_cognition cites a few surveys. Here are some facts about NFC: "need for cognition was related weakly and negatively to being closeminded, unrelated to social desirability, and positively correlated with general inte…

Sounds almost like "need for cognition" has a big overlap with simply "introverted".

I don't see where you're getting that conclusion from, based on the items in the comment you're responding to. The chief conclusion about the social interactions of high-NFC people seems to be that they care more about the quality of arguments when being persuaded than the attractiveness of the arguer.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds almost like "need for cognition" has a big overlap with simply "introverted".

I don't see where you're getting that conclusion from, based on the items in the comment you're responding to. The chief conclusion about the social interactions of high-NFC people seems to be that they care more about the quality of arguments when being persuaded than the attractiveness of the arguer.

Taking the Carr and Wikipedia 'high NFC' qualities together, don't you see a description of people who often prefer thinking deeply to themselves over superficial smalltalk and other group social 'grooming' activities?

Compare 'high NFC' with 'introverted' as described by this famous "Caring for your Introvert" article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/03/caring-f...

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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If I have any social networking anxiety, it's not about friend count. It's anxiety over wasting my life catering to wannabe web personalities trying to build a following via attention-whoring or wasting precious moments of my life scrolling through every mundane update every idiot on my list posts when their new baby farts (or, worse, the ultra sound images and the nine months of constant uninteresting updates that f…

You write like everyone who posts to Facebook or Twitter expects you to read everything they post. I don't think anyone posts with that expectation in mind.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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Facebook is becoming more boring every day, though. I've never really used it that much, but I have friend who have, and they are starting to quit it and ignore their accounts because it's becoming boring and spammy.

The signal to noise has grown much louder. 25 friends in 2005 was worth about 2000 now. I liked it a ton in college when it was just for college students, but now it just seems awkward to talk to everyone you've ever met in your life in one social space. That should only happen at weddings and funerals.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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Wow. It seems like this research hurt the feelings of some Facebook users. I see Facebook's utility, but I fail to care. The people I care about are already in my life - daily. I see no use in staying abreast of what people I otherwise would not communicate with are currently up to.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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post #36

If I have any social networking anxiety, it's not about friend count. It's anxiety over wasting my life catering to wannabe web personalities trying to build a following via attention-whoring or wasting precious moments of my life scrolling through every mundane update every idiot on my list posts when their new baby farts (or, worse, the ultra sound images and the nine months of constant uninteresting updates that f…

Perfect! Well put.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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Am I alone in feeling that this headline is self-aggrandizing snobbery? Facebook succeeds by providing universal access: it must be a tool that anyone can use. Is a hammer geared to dullards? Is a coffee mug? Just because it is simple enough for everyone to use doesn't equate to being "geared for dullards". I know it's cool to hate on Facebook, but attacking them for one of their key successes is absurd. Now whether…

Facebook is designed to maximize engagement. With that goal in mind, what kind of user is more desirable? One who digs into deep issues, or one who spends all day chatting with friends? Sure, the research doesn't say what Facebook's intent is, but if they're seeking to maximize engagement, we can guess where it will go.

Is chatting with friends for dullards?

One who digs into deep issues

What does that even mean? In my observation there's a few hundred people in the world who actually "dig into deep issues". They are supplemented by about fifty million others who think they are being deep because have just taken a freshman philosophy class and/or drugs.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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I see studies like this and am prone to think ill of them (or the people reporting the results). The sample is "436 college students". This is not really a statistically sound number or demographic slice given the Facebook's current numbers. Also, it seems to have one of those "1 + 1 = cheese" moments in associating simple, behavior, and dullard (which came first "simplifying Facebook or the dullard?"). law of social…

Keep in mind that as much psychology research as possible is done with college students as subjects. After all, requiring your Psych 101 freshmen to fill out a questionnaire is a lot easier, quicker, and cheaper than recruiting a wider range of subjects.

And your "law of social networks" also applies to real-world immigration.

Re: Is Facebook geared to dullards?

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It could very well be that the relationship between NFC and certain forms of social interaction in general is very strong and Facebook is simply a reflection of that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need_for_cognition cites a few surveys. Here are some facts about NFC: "need for cognition was related weakly and negatively to being closeminded, unrelated to social desirability, and positively correlated with general inte…

Sounds almost like "need for cognition" has a big overlap with simply "introverted".

The Need for Cognition Scale can be found here: http://www.liberalarts.wabash.edu/ncs/

Note (from the link): "Based on previous research, the Need for Cognition Scale appears to be a valid and reliable measure of individuals’ tendencies to pursue and enjoy the process of thinking"

It has nothing to do with Intro/Extroversion. NFC may have some correlation to Intro/Extroversion, but one cannot draw that conclusion from the NFC study alone.

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